Death of REDbird: Current Best Options & To-Do Checklist

REDbird is Dead

The speculation that Target no longer allows in-store debit card loads for REDbird has now been confirmed. FrequentMiler got a picture of the Target memo indicating the change (bolding mine):

Tender Accepted Select Reloadable Prepaid Cards

Effective Oct 13 cash is the only tender guests can use to reload select prepaid cards (listed below) in store.

Key Details

  • Prepaid cards falling under this restriction include: REDcard, American Express for Target, Green Dot MasterCard, Green Dot Visa, NetSpend Visa and MyVanilla Visa
  • POS will prompt if a payment type cannot be used.
  • If applicable, credit or debit cards can be used to pay the card fee.

Cashier Direction

  • Follow POS prompts. If POS displays a message that the tender can only be used for a certain amount or not at all, ask the guest for another form of payment.
  • If the guest inquires about the tender restriction, advise: “Target has made the decision to only allow cash reloads for this card. This decision aligns with other retailers who also only accept cash for reloadable prepaid cards.”

Which Prepaid Card is Best?

Now that REDbird is no longer a tool for manufacturing spend, most of us will want to switch over the Serve or Bluebird which can be loaded with PIN-based debit cards at Walmart.

We previously introduced the One VIP Serve and explained why it’s the superior version of Serve, see Six Different Flavor of Serve and How to Remain Fee-Free. For some Bluebird will be better since it has no monthly fee at all.

Here’s the best option available…

  • OneVIP Serve – For many people, this will be the best option. It does have a $1 monthly fee, but the fee is waivable with $500 loaded per month. We’ve confirmed that even online credit card loads have been working to waive this fee, despite the fact that the terms are a little vague on this.
  • Bluebird – If you don’t plan on loading at Family Dollar and you don’t plan on doing online credit card loads (for example, if you are managing a card in someone else’s name and you don’t have any credit cards in their name), choose Bluebird instead of Serve. This card has no monthly fee at all and free reloads at Walmart.
  • GreenServe – If you live in NY, TX, or VT, get GreenServe or OneVIP Serve. People in these states don’t have a monthly fee and would do better taking Serve over Bluebird for the added ability to load at Family Dollar and to do online credit card loads.

To-Do Checklist

  • Empty REDbird account. The optimal way to do this is by sending the money over to a Serve/Bluebird account, e.g. a friend’s account. The transfer is instant and you are then assured that no money is tied up in the REDbird system. Alternatively, you can initiate a bill payment or an ACH withdrawal which will take a few days to process and then close the account.
  • Notate the exact Profile details in you REDbird account. FrequentMiler recommends opening the new account with exact profile details of the old one, especially the same email address. This worked for me as well. Mark down the email, phone, and address of the REDbird account or take a screenshot of it. These can be found by going to Settings>Profile.
  • (Optional) Download the statements from REDbird. Download all the statements in your REDbird account for future reference. They do allow you to login for 90 days after the account is closed, but you won’t be able to do so if you use the same email address for the new Serve account since that email will then be associated only with the new account (HT: Milestomemories).
  • Close REDbird account. Amex makes it very easy to close the REDbird account online. Go to Settings>Profile>Close Account (at the bottom of the page).
  • Open the new Serve or Bluebird account. Whichever option you choose, you can open it immediately after closing out the REDbird account; just use the same profile details, as noted above. You’ll choose a password, PIN, and security answer as part of the account opening.
  • Add four subaccounts. Once you receive the card and activate it, you can then add up to 4 subaccounts. The big advantage of Serve and Bluebird over REDbird was always that they can be used for Amex Offers which many find very lucrative. Hopefully, you’ll have friends or family members you can add. You don’t need their SSN, but you do need a name, DOB, address, phone, and email address. The email and the phone number need to be unique – you can’t have two Serve/Bluebird accounts or subaccounts with the same email.
  • Sync the 5 cards to Twitter. You can add Amex Offers to your Serve accounts and subaccounts, but you’ll have to login to each one separately to do so. Far easier is to take the time once to sync the five cards with Twitter and you can then automate adding the offers to all the cards or you can add it easily to all cards at once via Tweetdeck.
  • (Optional) Open new REDcard debit card. If you do ordinary shopping at Target, the prepaid REDcard was useful to get 5% off on all Target purchases. If you don’t already have a Target REDcard consider signing up for one. You can opt for the credit card version which will come with a hard credit inquiry. Or choose the debit card version which is only a soft pull. (There is a Chex inquiry for the debit version.)
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November 8, 2015 20:43

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Steve
Steve (@guest_193048)
November 2, 2015 21:24

Tried today Tom, thinking perhaps you were right. I got the same message from the register that started occurring on Oct. 13. I’m holding out hope that perhaps they are sending out chip cards that might replace the old redcards, but all I got at Target was “oh yeah, we got a memo about that somewhere.” She couldn’t find the memo and a Debit GC reload wouldn’t work. I didn’t press it.

Tom
Tom (@guest_191073)
October 28, 2015 13:23

Redcard appears to be Alive again. Just received this email from american express regarding the target redcard. You can continue to easily add money through Direct Deposit, Debit Card, and Cash Reloads at any U.S. Target store.

We want to let you know about some changes to the terms and conditions of your Prepaid REDcard® by American Express Account:

• Funding & Transfers
As of October 28, you will not be able to link a new bank account to your Prepaid REDcard Account to add money. However, you will still be able to transfer money out of your Prepaid REDcard Account to a bank account.

If you currently have a linked bank account, nothing will change – you’ll still be able to add money from that account.

You can continue to easily add money through Direct Deposit, Debit Card, and Cash Reloads at any U.S. Target store.1

• Early Direct Deposit
Now you can get access to your money up to two days faster* with Direct Deposit. You can automatically add all or part of your paycheck, government benefits and federal tax refunds to your Prepaid REDcard Account.

You can also review these changes in the Consumer User Agreement here.

Thanks,

The Prepaid REDcard® by American Express Team

Aidan
Aidan (@guest_189869)
October 25, 2015 23:14

Today I loaded, a total of $500 Vanilla Gift Cards from CVS to my serve vip at family dollar. I first tried $20 then $480.

There were reports that people loaded more than $500 per day then the everything after $500 was debited from the gift card but serve wasn’t loaded. Please don’t push your luck.

I am glad that the CVS and family dollar that I go to are closed to each other. The whole process takes about half an hour. Downside is I have to go multiple day until the monthly limit.

Good luck to everyone. As always, YMMV

Chris
Chris (@guest_189459)
October 25, 2015 00:02

Hi Chuck,

Since the demise of Target RedBirds, I am in the process of switching it back to Serve One VIP card and wonder what’s the latest Walmart’s PIN enabled VGCs lacing policy towards Amex BlueBird or Serve because I was away from Walmart to do MS in the past 10 months.

Quoted Jacob’s article posted on his CashCowCouple blog dated 8/26/15: Load Your Serve/Redbird Account – Walmart recently announced in August 2015 that you can use debit cards to reload your Serve account in all stores. This is excellent news. All you have to do is walk up to a cashier and say “I need to load my prepaid card.” Then hand them your Serve card and tell them how much to load.

Reference URL:
http://cashcowcouple.com/travel/manufactured-spending-gift-cards/#comment-414663

There is one thing that I am still confused and wonder if Walmart accepting PIN-enabled VGCs since August 2015 overwriting the “No VGC policy” back in Feb. 2015? Because I was doing RedBirds at Target for the past 9 months and didn’t keep up with updates from Walmart.

Back in February 2015, there’s an incident and here is the article posted on Miles to Memories Blog with all details, “Latest With Loading Gift Cards at Walmart – Worrisome But Mixed Reports”
http://milestomemories.boardingarea.com/gift-card-load-bluebird-serve/

After the demise of RedBirds, I convered back to AMEX Serve One VIP and was waiting for my new card’s arrival. Other members had told me they had no issues to load PIN Enabled VGC/MGC onto BlueBird/Serve in WM or WM Neighborhood Market at cash register or KATE (very rare to locate one in my area). I am a little confused now. I live in SF Bay Area and I saw lots of “No Go for VGCs/MCGCs” comments these readers had left on various blogs in the past 6 months. Can you please advise? Thanks Chuck.

Doug
Doug (@guest_188407)
October 22, 2015 12:10

Are any credit cards loading OneVIP Serve being treated as cash advances?

I remember this was an issue about a year ago but I don’t know if it changed since I switched to the REDCard back then.

Just switching back to serve now but I didn’t get instant approval for some reason… need to check email and probably upload ID again.

Chris
Chris (@guest_187803)
October 20, 2015 19:10

Has anybody tried to load PIN enabled Visa/Master Gift Card at any Walmart Neighborhood Market? Do they have KATE and if their cashier register has authority to process BlueBird/Server Reload? Thanks.

Kelly
Kelly (@guest_187452)
October 19, 2015 15:28

I closed my Redcard on October 14th. After receiving confirmation of closure, I applied for the OneVIP Serve with the same information. Got message on website that I would receive email with further instructions before approval. No email yet. Anyone else have this issue. Want to get my new Serve card ASAP to load this month.

ES
ES (@guest_186931)
October 17, 2015 15:05

Just to clarify, so I should be able to use a VGC to load an Old Serve at 7/11 with no fee? Thanks!

Octavio
Octavio (@guest_186945)
October 17, 2015 16:10
  ES

7-11 is cash only and POS-enforced. Walmart/FD allow debit card loads, while CVS/7-11 will ask for cold hard cash.

ES
ES (@guest_186952)
October 17, 2015 17:11

OK, thanks!

Payal
Payal (@guest_186725)
October 16, 2015 19:35

I closed my redbird and have bluebird now. any specific instructions on how to load money at WM in my bluebird account? it is done at cashier counter or customer service counter?

can both GC bought from gc.com and amex debit cards from staples be loaded To BB at WM?

ALSO ANY maximum loading limited per day/per month?

Octavio
Octavio (@guest_186767)
October 16, 2015 23:40

Probably should have gone with Serve since Bluebird limits you to only Walmart. At any rate, you should be able to load your card with a cashier, at the customer service counter or using the kiosk. Just hand your card to the cashier, tell them how much you want to load, confirm the amount on the POS screen and slide whatever card your are going to use for the load. As with anything, YMMV…some cashiers are overzealous and will ask to see your card (the one you’ll be paying with) to make sure it has your name, others might send you to the customer service counter, etc. I’ve only ran into a couple of those problems and the best thing is move on and try someone else.

You cannot use Amex prepaid cards of any kind to load bluebird b/c the POS will never read it as a debit card. No idea about gift cards from gc as I’ve never bought them myself.

The Bluebird website answers your last question: $2,500 per day with the caveat of Up to $1,999.99 per day at Walmart registers/$5,000 per month.