Recap: AA & TPG Suing Each Other, Into The Wild Bus Airlifted & More

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• https://news.yahoo.com/cathay-pacific-offering-thousands-dollars-143000061.html

  Cathay Pacific is offering thousands of dollars in bonuses to pilots just to encourage them to fly into Hong Kong where they're enduring long quarantines

• Perhaps TPG should pay a programmer to build an Android version of the app before spending money on lawsuits.

• I seriously doubt that the litigation has anything to do with mileage expiration -- that's the line TPG would like everyone to believe as it sounds sympathetic -- but rather that these programs don't want anyone to get in the way of their direct customer relationship. Combined with not wanting a third party to profit off their data. What's surprising to me is that Southwest, Delta, and United haven't (apparently?) acted yet, as they've done in the past (none of them allow AwardWallet access, despite having no expiration).

• Wonder why YMMV is reporting on the bus move now when it took place 18 months ago. While maybe the move was sudden, what happened afterwards wasn’t. 🤷‍♂️

• "American Airlines And The Points Guy Are Suing Each Other "

  More confirmation that the shutdowns were purely for profit. They dont care who they alienate as long as they make more money...and if they get in money trouble, they'll just beg for more bailouts.

  • something something capitalism bad

    (srsly tho, capitalism bad, especially in 2022 USA)

  • I'm rooting for the meteor.

  • Lost almost $1 billion in Q4 2021, $36 billion in debt.

• I’m sure TPG just wanted to help people track their miles more easily. He’s a regular Mother Teresa.

  • The sarcasm is strong with this one

• Re: AA and TPG -- It's AA's app and they can set the terms & conditions, like them or not. TPG was poorly advised if they think that they can defend their practice in court. They should have settled/reached agreement w/ AA.

  • What is AA’s app and how is TPG using it?

    I think you perhaps mean website. The info is served using a standard protocol (https and html). TPG built a proprietary web browser (scraper) using those technologies to access the data per the account holders’ request. It really isn’t any different from the user using Firefox or Chrome, storing the password in the browser, and then putting their account balance in a Google Docs spreadsheet. Except that TPG is presumably serving them ads and might try to sell them a credit card or ten (I don’t know, I don’t use their app).

  • Let's see. I'm on side TPG here, and against contracts of adhesion.

    This is your data you're accessing, and whether you access it via a web browser, or by delegating access to TPG, should be immaterial here.

    • I hear what you're saying, but: Doesn't really matter what you like or don't like. In Europe, the Ryan Air case (ECJ, c. 2015) says that properly structured clickwrap prevents 3rd party screen scraping. In US, there's no similarly-dispositive SCOTUS precedent, but no reputable counsel is going to give somebody like TPG a strong advance opinion to ignore AA's anti-scraping t&c's.

      My money is on TPG and AA settling on undisclosed terms, which may or may not include AA granting TPG a license to access the data.

  • we'll see

• Good outcome for that bus. More people can now see it, and they won't die trying to do so.

  • The irony is that people only heard of this bus because Chris McCandless died there. McCandless died because he was unprepared to live in the wild. People who were unprepared died trying to get to it.