My First Reselling Experience: Fail

This is a guest post from Leana, who used to write at Miles For Family. Today she is sharing her first experience trying to resell giftcards, at the end we’ve also included best practices for reselling giftcards so you can try to avoid the problems Leana encountered. 

It’s obvious that nowadays, re-selling in this hobby is the “thing” to do. Since I’ve always wanted to be one of the cool kids, I just had to try it for myself. Plus, I needed to meet minimum spending requirements on my new CSP card in order to make  a redemption  through United MileagePlus program.

Fortunately for me (not) Doctor of Credit has reported on this super duper fantastic deal on Exxon Mobil gift cards via Ebay. You could get up to three $100 cards for $90 each. Long story short, once all was said and done, you could potentially turn a $100 profit. OK, it wasn’t actually that lucrative, but did seem like a no-brainer. Well, for those with a brain, that is.

I’m hoping that my experience will be a cautionary tale as well as introduction for those who are thinking about getting into this whole gift card reselling craze.

Contents

The Anatomy Of The Fail

  1.  I buy gift cards on Ebay after going through a shopping portal. All is well. I get the cards in the mail after just five days. Ready to break into reselling, y’all!
  2. I get an offer on Cardpool to get $92 per card. They also provide a free shipping label (no tracking, an important detail). I’ll take it anyway!
  3. I ship all three envelopes to Cardpool. I’m officially one of the cool kids.
  4. One of the cards arrives after only 4 days. I get paid for it. So far so good. Except… there is no sign of the other two envelopes. Remember, they were all shipped at the same time.
  5. Ten days later and I’m still waiting.
  6.  What the heck??? I look for a way to contact Cardpool, but there is no phone number. You can only communicate via  email. Not good, but I shoot a message asking about my cards. After 1.5 days I get a reply that they don’t got them. I write back saying how could this be if they were mailed at the same time. I get a reply the next day asking me to provide a tracking number. Oops! I don’t got it because you didn’t provide it with your prepaid envelope!!! I get an email back asking me again for the tracking number.
  7. Two weeks has passed and nothing changed. Did I mention that I forgot to write down the numbers of each card? I contact the Ebay seller asking him if he happens to have them. No response.
  8. I go through 7 stages of grief over my $180 (well minus cashback and Ebay bucks, eyeroll).
  9. I contact Exxon Mobil and the rep says all communication has to go through the Ebay seller (who is not responding, of course). I ask him if I could talk to a supervisor, and he says he is the supervisor. Oops again. I turn on my Eastern European accent and apologize profusely for doubting his rank. He says he would try to help resolve it and would shoot an email to the Ebay seller who just happens to be their authorized dealer. Glimmer of hope.
  10. I get a message from the Ebay seller who says  he looked up my gift cards’ balance and all three still had $100 on them. He zeroed  out each one, reissued them and sent new ones to my address. Except, of course, I already got paid for one of them. So, instead of being one of the cool kids, I just became the scumbag seller who sold Cardpool an empty gift card.
  11. I contact Cardpool asking them how I can pay back the money I now owe them. It’s been a few days and  I’m still waiting for response and there is no phone number to contact them. Hey, I just might turn a $100 profit on this deal after all!

The Lessons

  1. Reselling is a pain  in a butt.
  2. Cardpool stinks. They are fine when you buy gift cards from them, but as far as selling goes, stay away. Their customer service rep took  1.5 days to respond and lacked reading and comprehension skills. Make sure company you resell to has  a phone number. I still have no clue what happened to those two gift cards, but my guess is they got misplaced in their processing center.
  3. Keep good records! Yes, it sounds obvious, but make sure to write down the numbers of cards, take screenshots just in case etc.
  4. Mail cards via certified mail. It costs extra, but this will be your only proof of delivery.
  5. If at all possible, try to buy cards that can be resold online. Sure, the payout is usually smaller, but you avoid extra shipping costs and the worry that something might happen to them in-transit. Obviously, I didn’t have this option for Exxon Mobil   cards, otherwise I would take it.

Final Thoughts

Well, I’m a complete idiot! Now I have these three Exxon Mobil gift cards and the nearest station is 35 minutes away. I’m thinking about bribing my husband to use them when he is out-of-town for work. I’m sure that will cost me.  I could even try to re-sell them through another company and hope for a better outcome. Overall, I think I’m done with reselling.

P.S. I ended up using AAdvantage miles for those award tickets, so I didn’t really need United miles after all.

Thanks again to Leana for submitting this guest post, make sure you go check out her blog here. She’s not actively posting anymore, but this is still a wealth of information on her site you can read through. I think there are two main lessons we can learn from Leana’s experiences:

  • Start small, even though it was possible to purchase three $100 gift cards, Leana might have been better served just starting with one gift card. This would’ve meant she would only have been stuck with one gift card rather than three in the event that something went wrong.
  • Always keep complete records. I usually take a picture of the front and back of each gift card so that I have a record in case the gift cards go missing. 

One of the great things about making mistakes is that they are a great learning opportunity. What else can we learn from this experience? Let us know in the comments, please keep it civil and constructive. 

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cheapblackdad
cheapblackdad (@guest_109766)
April 27, 2015 10:19

A wise woman once said “Don’t let this hobby take over your life.” on her last blog post. I take that mantra very seriously. I’ve developed some hard and fast rules to make sure I am living this:

1. I will only get points from spend (including sign up bonus points) I would be doing even I was not in this game. That doesn’t mean I am not looking for deals like portal bonuses and dining reward plans, but I try not let this hobby make my spend money (real or MS) I would not otherwise spend.
2. No MS. Period. Feels dishonest, looks dishonest, and I want a clean conscience and record when credit card issuers have to have an actual person talk to me or look at my file.
3. No Reselling. Too much work. Too many pitfalls. If my wife or I did not work might be worth it.
4. No business cards until I have an actual, legit, business. None of this “I sell all the things on the ebays!”.
5. Do not start a blog. See point 3 above.

That said, I keep an open mind, and try to be aware and knowledgeable on how these things work. Reselling absolutely passes the ethical sniff test to me, but it just seems hard, and would require too much mental capacity. It’s hard enough sweating a call from Day Care that your daughter is sick and you’ll have to leave in the middle of that important meeting, or trying to get done with your son’s homework. Can’t imagine worrying about this stuff too, and having actual cash on the line!

I do think that when you are planning for extended family/friends or you try to have a trip planned every other week it requires a lot of the additional work. So I plan accordingly. We are already fortunate enough to take incredible trips for close to free. Why push things so far that we have to do a lot of extra work to fit in one more trip to Hawaii?

#nohate #endrant

leana
leana (@guest_109772)
April 27, 2015 10:40

@Cheapblackdad I am so embarrassed… Though, in my defense, I’ve said before that I don’t always follow my own advice. I’m quite a hypocrite, you know.

It was totally something out of my comfort zone, but I wanted to get the CSP sign-up bonus in time to book the return tickets for my parents. We ended up using AAdvantage miles (of course!), but at the time I didn’t know that we would go that route.
I think for minimum spending and under unique circumstances, it might be worth it to bother with reselling. Emphasis on “might.” Otherwise, it is a headache when things go wrong. And they do go wrong sometimes. On a separate note, I should have just let you take over the blog and rename it “Miles for a black family.” What say you?
#endrant … for now.

BigHabitat
BigHabitat (@guest_110885)
April 29, 2015 10:18

Hmm, CBD I am breaking all of your five hard and fast rules 😉 Funny thing is, I don’t do gift card reselling because for me the profits aren’t worth the risk of sending cash equivalents through the mail or selling GC on ebay etc (e.g., exactly Leana’s experience). I much prefer to resell items with Amazon so when I mail it in to them my work is over since they handle the customer service, mailing to the customer, payment, etc, even reimbursing you if they lose your item in the warehouse.

Kishore
Kishore (@guest_109743)
April 27, 2015 09:14

Hi Leena,

Nice to see you again at DoC 🙂

I always use Giftcards.com for my reselling. They issue free FedEx 2 day shipping label. There will be a Account Manager for you and you can directly contact them using their Ext. FYI : I registered for Bulk seller in Giftcardsc.om

leana
leana (@guest_109768)
April 27, 2015 10:27

@Kishore Thanks! Nice to be here at DoC. I’m a big fan of this blog and has picked up a lot of good tips, yes, including the ill-fated Exxon Mobil deal! I will definitely deal with giftcards.com if I go the reselling route in the future. If I get Citi Prestige, I will probably need to do it, since it’s “use it or lose it” kind of deal as far as airline credit goes. Otherwise, not my thing.

Oh, and thanks for all of your support of my blog over the last few years, I appreciate it.

Paul
Paul (@guest_109589)
April 27, 2015 02:48

I had a horrible experience with ABC Gift Cards. They are crooks, scumbags, sleazy. Only when I threatened to sue and began filing complaints with the BBB did they belatedly send me my money (despite receiving them several months earlier). The phone lines had hold times of FIVE HOURS. And when they closed, rather than dealing with people who’d been on hold for hours, they just hung up. Their email customer service is a joke – they just ignore you. The numbers on the few emails I did get went to numbers that rang and rang and nobody ever picked up.

Reselling isn’t for the faint of heart. And since there seems to be lots of fraud on with resellers, expect to be treated like a scumbag. Those who resell are gluttons for punishment…

leana
leana (@guest_109709)
April 27, 2015 08:04

@Paul Sorry about your experience! That sounds like a nightmare. Glad you got your money in the end. I agree, the whole reselling thing is not for the faint of heart. I only did it because I needed to quickly meet minimum spending requirements in order to book award tickets. We are tied to a schedule and had to plan my parents’ visit around it.
It’s not something I normally do, and most likely won’t attempt again. Well, with a possible exception of Citi Prestige. In order to take advantage of yearly $250 airline credit, I may need to get a few airline gift cards. Fingers crossed, the purchase will be eligible for this credit.
I’ll definitely try to be smarter next time!

Josh
Josh (@guest_109577)
April 27, 2015 02:16

I used Giftcards.com for this transaction. No problems. I did follow the company’s advice on shipping certified. The extra expense did eat into my profits a little, but I am more about breaking even anyways. Just wish the eBay seller was coded for the 5x chase points. Oh well.

leana
leana (@guest_109704)
April 27, 2015 07:56

@Josh If i do decide to try this whole thing again, I will only ship certified mail. I should have done it last time, but was too lazy.

JGM
JGM (@guest_109443)
April 26, 2015 21:42

Thanks for sharing this! From my experience, Cardpool CS is the worst. I refuse to do biz with them again…

Leana
Leana (@guest_109452)
April 26, 2015 21:55

@JGM No problem! I was actually shocked as to how bad their CS was. I buy Walmart gift cards from Cardpool all the time and never had any problems. This experience definitely gave me pause. I was thinking about including some excerpts from our communication, but didn’t want to make the post overly long. It looked like the rep didn’t even read my emails, and would just provide generic answers. Of course, each email took over a day to answer. It was an incredibly frustrating experience. Though, I guess it could have been worse. At least, I didn’t lose any money, and so far has turned a terrific profit! Obviously, I will insist on paying the money back if they ever reply. I’ll shoot another email in a few days.

Leana
Leana (@guest_109410)
April 26, 2015 20:23

@Chris L and @ Miles Whip I completely agree! The thing is: I was busy, the kids were screaming blah blah blah. :))) Plus, I’m disorganized by nature. I still have no clue what happened, but it’s totally possible an employee at Cardpool just kept those two cards. Fortunately, the value was there when eBay seller finally took pity on me. The crazy thing is, it’s been 4 days now, and they still didn’t respond to let me know how I can them pay back for that first card. That whole company is so disorganized. Makes me leery to ever deal with them again on the buying side, though I’m pretty sure I’ll be banned anyway.

Lee
Lee (@guest_109407)
April 26, 2015 20:06

GiftCardZen gives you a free priority shipping label that includes tracking. Use them.

Leana
Leana (@guest_109411)
April 26, 2015 20:34

@Lee Thanks, I might try Gift Card Zen.

KP
KP (@guest_109431)
April 26, 2015 21:21

I doubt GiftCardZen gives you any kind of free shipping. I spoke to them when I had a big order to sell, they said its only for their bulk seller and not a regular seller.

Leana
Leana (@guest_109454)
April 26, 2015 21:57
  KP

@KP Thanks for clarification. I just might keep the cards or try to sell them to relatives who live close to Exxon Mobil stations. Everyone needs gas for a car, so it shouldn’t be too hard to get rid of them.

Miles Whip (@mileswhip)
Miles Whip (@mileswhip) (@guest_109403)
April 26, 2015 19:46

I agree with Chris and Will, Tracking is necessary because things get lost in the mail everyday. You don’t want to ship hundreds of dollars in an envelope with little way to be sure it ever arrives somewhere. Taking pictures and recording gift card numbers helps because if anything happens you can have them reissued or sell them to a company that sells egift cards.

John W Skiffington
John W Skiffington (@guest_109399)
April 26, 2015 19:27

I see gift card deal alerts quite often, but I have seen a writeup about the best way to flip them. Have written anything on that. What Leana did seems simple enough (even though she ran into trouble), but I’m sure there are lots of flipping options. If you have written something on this, can you provide a link? Thanks!

Chris L
Chris L (@guest_109397)
April 26, 2015 19:20

Must have tracking for ANYTHING you sell, otherwise all the blood suckers will say the package never arrived…and you have no way of knowing if said blood suckers are telling the truth.