Two IRS Tax Payment Tips

I recently mentioned a couple of tax tips to a friend which he found useful so I thought to share them here as well. As always, do your own research or consult with a tax advisor before implementing any changes.

Withhold Taxes From Paycheck Near Year’s End

Taxes are required to be paid quarterly which is why we have them withheld from our paychecks. Self employed people should be manually paying in their taxes each quarter.

Interestingly, taxes withheld on your paycheck are considered by the IRS as having been withheld evenly throughout the year. And so instead of having taxes withheld on each paycheck, you can have them all withheld on your final few paychecks and it will be considered as if you paid all along the way. (Obviously this will depend on how amenable your employer is to changing around your tax withholdings throughout the year.)

I wouldn’t recommend this trick to everyone; most people will budget better by having their taxes paid evenly. A disciplined person who is looking to maximize their savings might want to keep this trick in mind. For example, someone can keep the extra funds in a high yield savings account to earn interest throughout the year, and only have to pay into the IRS in December. Again, not a huge moneymaker, but something interesting to be aware of.

I’m not sure if this trick works for state taxes.

I once had this ‘trick’ work against me: I had $2,500 in taxes withheld on my paychecks for each of the first three quarters of the year. In the fourth quarter I set it up that no taxes would be withheld since I planned to pay in $2,500 manually (to meet a credit card spend requirement). Although I paid each quarter exactly the $2,500 owed, the IRS hit me with interest for late payment.

See, they considered the payments from the first three quarter as having been paid out evenly across all four quarters. And so they saw my four perfect $2,500 quarterly payments as if I had paid in $1,875 each of the first three quarters, and $4,375 in the fourth quarter. It’s the same $10,000 result, but they saw it (incorrectly) as if I had paid late. And so I got hit with interest for the delayed payment.

Pay Q1 Taxes Toward Prior Year

The other tip I’ll mention is mainly relevant for someone who is doing an extension on their tax return beyond April 15th. I always do an extension and have my taxes done later in the year. Since I don’t yet know exactly how much tax I’ll owe, I’m left guessing how much to pay in before April 15th. (Even when getting an extension, you still need to be fully paid up by April 15th or you’ll get hit with penalty and interest.)

A tip I learned is to make my Q1 estimated payment amount as payment toward the prior year’s taxes instead. (Instead of making a first-quarter estimated tax payment, I pay that amount toward my prior year’s extension payment and do not make the first-quarter payment at all.) This way, even if I guessed wrong on my estimates for the prior year, I have the Q1 payment padding the prior year’s balance.

In case I end up owing more than my guess, that extra payment will cover the prior year to avoid penalties. I’ll then have to worry about how to satisfy the current year’s tax liability (e.g. I can use the first trick mentioned in this post to pay it backwards). If my tax estimates for the prior year were, in fact, accurate I can always have the overpayment applied toward the current year.

This tip should work for both federal and state taxes.

Hopefully I didn’t lose everyone with my ramblings here. I find tax law interesting, hopefully some readers do too. 🙂

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Dan
Dan (@guest_2053736)
May 2, 2025 20:05

When do the limits reset?
Both processors prevent me from making Q2 payments: “limit reached,” but I only made Q1 payments before 4/15.

mangorunner 🔗
mangorunner 🔗 (@guest_2053791)
May 2, 2025 22:11

Dan, see this post. Use the Comment Search bar to find your answer. I know I’ve seen it discussed.
[Update: Lower Fees] A Complete Guide To Paying Your Federal Taxes With A Credit Card

JD
JD (@guest_2053811)
May 2, 2025 22:54

They start accepting Q2 payments on 5/15

Dan
Dan (@guest_2053288)
May 2, 2025 11:13

Processors stopped accepting business credit cards for personal tax payments:
Commercial cards cannot be used to pay personal federal taxes”

mangorunner 🔗
mangorunner 🔗 (@guest_2053392)
May 2, 2025 13:25

I think that’s why most people use PayPal with ACI Payments for business cards:
https://www.doctorofcredit.com/a-complete-guide-to-paying-your-taxes-with-a-credit-card/#comment-2037679
Are you saying that the PayPal-ACI combo no longer works, Dan?

JD
JD (@guest_2053806)
May 2, 2025 22:47

ACI has been showing that message since the changes went live at the start of the year, if you try to pay directly with a biz card. Paypal workaround should still be good to go…

nik
nik (@guest_2044226)
April 15, 2025 11:02

I paid my income taxes with a credit card yesterday through one their providers. At the last step they said they cannot process it and thus did not generate a receipt. But I checked and my card shows a pending transaction, and I talked to the bank, and they said they see nothing wrong.

Now, I do not know if the charge went through or not, and/or should I pay again. Anyone have any experience similar to this?

Elijah
Elijah (@guest_2028278)
March 21, 2025 16:45

I see ACI has an option to make a payment for “1040 Current Tax Return – Tax Year 2024″. If the original goal is to make an overpayment on my 2024 taxes and have it refunded back to me when I file the return, would this method suffice as an alternative to overpayment via Form 4868?

Elijah
Elijah (@guest_2037581)
April 3, 2025 18:13

I have found through other discussions that the 1040 option should be avoided for the purpose which I initially described.

gchope2k6 🔗
gchope2k6 🔗 (@guest_2023475)
March 15, 2025 12:20

Trying to understand how trick #2 works. Let’s assume I need to pay 4 quarters of estimated taxes at 10k each and the 2024 return for 5k.
By 4/15 I make a 15k (10k + 5K) payment against Form 4868 for 2024
By 6/15 I make a 10k payment against Form 1040-ES Q2 for 2025
By 9/15 I make a 10k payment against Form 1040-ES Q3 for 2025
In October I file the 2024 taxes. How do I tell the IRS not to give me a 10k refund from the 15k payed in April and apply them to Form 1040-ES Q1 2025?

Anthony Paganini
Anthony Paganini (@guest_2024141)
March 16, 2025 15:58

Form 1040, Ln 36.

P
P (@guest_1992002)
January 26, 2025 16:40

Don’t worry about this while there’s a republican president, congress and supreme court.

S.C
S.C (@guest_1991437)
January 25, 2025 03:35

Has anyone done these withholding tips prior to applying for a mortgage? I’m curious if banks would have concerns when they see paystubs and W-2s with such abnormal withholding.

BroOnTravel
BroOnTravel (@guest_1992378)
January 27, 2025 13:30

I have whacky stuff all over my paystub, never been asked about it.

S.C
S.C (@guest_1993128)
January 28, 2025 17:51

Hmmm… that’s encouraging. That’s probably my biggest hesitation to reducing my withholding and supplementing with estimated quarterly payments.

S.C
S.C (@guest_1993257)
January 28, 2025 21:59

I’m also curious if your final total withholding shown on your W-2 was weird. If I did this, I’d probably claim credits on my W-4 equal to about half my normal withholding, then pay the amount of the claimed credit in equal estimated payments each tax quarter (potentially increasing withholding slightly near end of year so that withholding + estimated payments meets safe harbor). So it’s mainly the fact that my W-2 would only show withholding equal to about half of taxes owed that has me worried a lender might think I was trying to stiff the IRS or something (although my final tax return would show that estimated payments made up the difference). I might be mortgage/house shopping sometime near the end of this year, so part of the concern is that without a completed tax return there wouldn’t be clear evidence I was making estimated quarterly payments.

treefam
treefam (@guest_1991095)
January 24, 2025 15:05

“Interestingly, taxes withheld on your paycheck are considered by the IRS as having been withheld evenly throughout the year.”

Let’s qualify that. IF your withholdings alone end up being within $1000 of your calculated tax, then Form 2210 doesn’t care when you withheld. However, if you’re paying tax through a combination of estimated taxes and withholdings, then delaying all your withholdings until December will likely lead to a penalty where timely withholding would not. In other words, the timing of withholding matters not on Form 2210 Part I, but on Form 2210 Part III.

calwatch
calwatch (@guest_1992133)
January 27, 2025 00:03

Except you can check Box D of Part II and have withholding treated when it occurs, while income can be treated as earned in equal installments.

tuphat
tuphat (@guest_1990922)
January 24, 2025 11:14

FWIW, regarding W-4s:

Employees file the form with their employer. The employer does NOT routinely forward or otherwise file the form with the IRS. In the past, employers did send W-4s meeting certain criteria to the IRS, i.e., claims of complete exemption or more than 10 allowances.

John
John (@guest_1991027)
January 24, 2025 13:24

Right, but the new form does not have allowances anymore. It’s just a dollar amount now. What would be the new threshold for snitching to IRS?

tuphat
tuphat (@guest_1991070)
January 24, 2025 14:24

No threshold. Employer simply responds to any IRS request, if any.

“After the employee completes and signs the Form W-4, you must keep it in your records for at least 4 years … This form serves as verification that you’re withholding federal income tax according to the employee’s instructions and needs to be available for inspection should the IRS ever request it. Form W-4 is still subject to review. You may be directed (in a written notice or in future published guidance) to send certain Forms W-4 to the IRS. You must be able to supply a hardcopy of an electronic Form W-4.”

GCGuru
GCGuru (@guest_1991896)
January 26, 2025 11:06

This is so helpful. It’s that IRS ability to investigate later that scares me off. I can’t honestly say that I shouldn’t be withheld throughout the year, as much as I’d like to do Tip 1. If I were audited they could go to my employer and pull my W-4. At a minimum I’d have some serious explaining to do.

tuphat
tuphat (@guest_1991988)
January 26, 2025 15:45

Practically speaking, for someone whose primary source of income is a single W-2 job, as long as total withholdings for the entire year equal or exceed total tax for the year, the IRS is very very unlikely to investigate or take any other action.

calwatch
calwatch (@guest_1992135)
January 27, 2025 00:04

In my case withholdings have never gotten near total tax for over a decade now, ever since I started paying quarterly estimated taxes to earn some beer money every quarter, and the IRS has not cared one bit.

007
007 (@guest_1990920)
January 24, 2025 11:07

I modify withholding a few times a year to optimize tax withholding but not so drastic as to do none until year’s end. For P2 we actually do zero withholding to max out retirement accounts asap.

However, with such a drastic approach as in this article, it seems one will be in trouble if lose job before year’s end?