Update 4/14/25: Changes are now live.
Original Post 4/8/25:
Most of the rumors about that U.S. Bank Smartly card changes which we discussed in the prior post turned out to be true. Instead of updating that post, let’s just review everything we know. This is based on internal U.S. Bank communication sent out today. (thanks to reddit user Zanutrees)
- No changes are happening at this time for existing U.S. Bank Smartly cardholders. (There was some mention of additional changes happening on 5/19/25, and it’s possible those will affect the existing cardholders, but we don’t know that and my guess is it won’t. That seems to revolve more around the monthly maintenance fee waive; we’ll see.) It’s likely that at some point down the line there will be changes for everyone, but we can hope it’ll last for a while.
- You can apply for the existing/old/better version of the Smartly card through April 13, 2025 and you’ll be grandfathered with all of the old rules and benefits. I can’t advise whether this makes sense or not as we don’t know how long the old benefits will last. I would say for someone who doesn’t find it too difficult and who values the 4% a good deal, it could make sense to sign up now and hope that it’ll last for a while.
- The first version is called internally by the bank reps as Smartly v1 and the upcoming/worse version is v1.1. They don’t use those words when talking to customers.
Here are the negative changes with the new/worse version of the card:
- Only checking balances count toward the reward tiers. Even savings balances do not count, and brokerage does not count either.
- You need $10k balance in checking to get to tier 1 (2.5% rewards). In the old/better version you only needed $5k. The other tiers are $50k (3% rewards) and $100k (4% rewards) on both versions of the card.
- The new/worse version uses a balance calculation based on a 30-day average balance of all qualifying accounts. The old/better version goes with a 90-day average.
- The new/worse version has $10,000 spend limit per billing cycle on the increased rewards (4% or 3% or 2.5%); afterward it’s just a flat 2%. The old version has no limit to spend which can earn the increased reward tiers.
- The new/worse version excludes tax payments, business-to-business purchases, insurance, education/tuition, third party bill payments and direct selling Gift Card online sites from earning bonus rewards; these purchases will earn the base earn of 2% cash back. The old/better version does not have any of these exclusions.
Our Verdict
The biggest surprise to me in these changes is that they won’t allow savings accounts to count toward the rewards tiers. It basically makes the card tiers not really usable. Why not just get rid of the tiers and make it a flat 2% card?
A reader points out that many people end up averaging $10,000 in their checking account over the course of 30 days. And so the new version of the card might make sense for some people as a flat no-fee 2.5% card.
I personally usually average less than $10k and wouldn’t find it useful. Also, I hate having to think about each purchase and whether it will count in one category or another. That’s why I love the 2.62% Bank of America card and the Smartly old/better card version. Once I have to think about what they ‘business-to-business’ or whether some charity is coded as ‘education’, etc, it loses appeal to me.
In the prior post, we expressed some concern that there might be some changes coming on May 19, 2025 to existing cardholders as well. However, as we noted there and still seems to be the case, the May 19th changes are just with regards to the monthly fee on the Smartly checking account being increased to $12 per month. This doesn’t affect anyone who has $100k invested with U.S. Bank since anyone with Gold tier status and higher has the monthly fee waived, see this PDF link.
Any get this $10 credit just recently? Noticed it:
Spend and Get Credit – $10.00
Description
Spend And Get Stmt Credit
+10.00
June 27th.
Spending is not a problem when we’re getting 4x on all purchases.
I am almost at 100% usage of my CL on this card after charging the property tax and paying to IRS. My next statement date is 5/1/2025. I am not going to recycle the CL and will not charge anything until next cycle starts. The questions are (1) Should I pay down the balance between now and the current statement closes? (2) I assume everyone on this card has 0% APY on purchase during the first 12 months cycle. Is it safe to take the advantage of this? If yes, what is the amount (%) should I leave on the balance to avoid negative impact? Thanks.
No negative impact unless you want to apply for other lines of credit. Your score will drop due to the increased balance, and some lenders might not offer you new cards.
Folks: check your rewards summary and activity to see if some transactions were only earning 2% where supposed to be 4%!
I had this card a while back (way earlier than 4/14) therefore not affected by the benefit change starting 4/14. However when I happened to check my rewards activity today, I found a good number of my transactions were only earning 2% not the full 4% as supposed to. These transactions were sporadic and spread across the whole period of my having the card, so there is no systematic pattern but more like due to tech glitches.
I will contact the bank to clarify. But want to flag this in case others may experience this as well.
I wonder if their system is erroneously giving everyone the new restrictions for tax payment, business payments, insurance payments, and the like. Would that line up from your experience?
I took a closer look. It seems there is a discrepancy between what they show in the app versus on the website. The website shows correct data to me. So it could be a false alarm (but still a strange gap).
I just got my statement close and I received all the 4% correctly, including on tax payments
Definitely joining the analyst call and asking why they lost tens of millions of depositor dollars if they try to make this retroactive.
Death of the CFPB is going to bite us
Sigh.
the public rewards page officially documents the date threshold: https://rewards.usbank.com/usbcashunl/en_us/utility/help/program-rules.html#rewards-summary-applications-received-4142025-and-after
This link doesn’t work for me, can you let us know what it says?
Speculations on how long will we grandfathered folks will get to continue sucking on that sweet, sweet 4% teet?
Probably until they figure out how to do it without causing a bank run.
I’d guess at least a year. If we make it a year I’ll say 2 more years. At 3 years I’ll say we’re in the clear and they’ve forgotten about us. That’s kind of how my other grandfathered cards have gone, and some of those involve unsustainable rewards I’m pretty sure a portion of the community has hung onto and milked to no end
Love this card! Glad we all got it before today!
Welcome to the club! I’ve enjoyed the card since January.
Having to keep the money in checking destroys most of the benefit since you’re losing a ton of interest that way. So it wouldn’t make sense for most.
For those grandfathered in, is there a limit on savings account transactions per month? I am thinking of using the savings as a checking account and maintain the $5k balance to get the extra .5%
Answering my own question, US Bank has no monthly limits on savings, you can use it exactly like a checking and make some interest on it.
Can some point me to the details of opening the brokerage account that meets the 100k req? I think it’s been mentioned but not sure where to find the info (what’s it called, how to “link” it so it counts, any gotchas). Thanks!!