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mjm
mjm (@guest_2057507)
May 8, 2025 13:53

by my math “wash trading” EUR/USD 1MM in volume will cost you around $100, leaving $900 profit. You can even sign up for a demo account, which uses live currency quotes, and practice the trade. I stumbled around a bit to figure out how to close my account, so I ended up losing $115 in my demo trade.

Kenny M
Kenny M (@guest_2057261)
May 8, 2025 08:45

I just (re-)read the bonus requirements. This is too risky for me, at least in this category of my “investing.” I gamble on sports on a daily basis and this is approaching/resembles betting on a heavy favorite late in the game with a win likely in hand…but not yet fully secured. It’s a lots of moving parts with enough risk to outweigh the comparatively modest upside.

I’d almost rather take the money and bet on an NCAA #2 seed to beat a #15 seed after the #2 seed is up a few points early. But I only do that with my “play” money…not my family’s long-term savings.

Good luck to all who are braver than myself!

tuphat
tuphat (@guest_2057335)
May 8, 2025 10:30

I am not a gambler, and to each their own, but:

The sportsbook analogy breaks down pretty quickly. In FX, the “bets” can be better managed, on your own terms vs. terms dictated by the house. For example, you can easily limit the duration of your risk by opening and closing positions within minutes of each other. Yes, you’re likely going to lose some money on the spread, but that’s OK, imho. Looking back at my own transaction history, the most I ever lost on a trade was about $4, that was on $20k notional at 50:1. Most trades I did were of similar size & pairs, averaging around $1 loss on each.

I am definitely not brave, actually a bit of a coward. But I would bet you’ll make money on this deal if you play your cards right.

Kenny M
Kenny M (@guest_2057508)
May 8, 2025 13:54

Well-reasoned response. Respect! -KM

Docfan
Docfan (@guest_2056821)
May 7, 2025 18:07

I’ve done them previously but these don’t seem worth it to me except for maybe the $100 one

Jack
Jack (@guest_2056764)
May 7, 2025 16:31

Guess we can forget about churning this?

Rob
Rob (@guest_2056647)
May 7, 2025 14:25

What’s the best method to earn the $10k bonus here at minimum risk and cost?

tuphat
tuphat (@guest_2056663)
May 7, 2025 14:50

Paging shawntheshawn. Spoon feed us, baby! 🙂

Jack
Jack (@guest_2056706)
May 7, 2025 15:40

You gotta @ ShawntheShawn!

Tela
Tela (@guest_2056678)
May 7, 2025 15:12

Wondering same here. Following for updates.

Billy Bob
Billy Bob (@guest_2057027)
May 7, 2025 22:15

Notional Trade Volume = $50m. Does shawntheshawn have that much?
Really this involves speculating on currency movements – making a whole chitload of relatively small in-and-out trades to make that $50m nut. However, are you willing to do this when a single fart from Dear Leader can crash you out (or enrich you)?
Another thought: can you speed-trade to drive up your Trade Volume – not leaving the market much time to move the currency one way or the other?

ShawntheShawn👈🏾
ShawntheShawn👈🏾 (@guest_2057060)
May 7, 2025 22:58

No, I do not have $50m, but that’s trade volume, and you can achieve $50m trade volume with far less money in your account.

But going for the $10K bonus tier is going to require a lot more effort and attention, and of course significantly higher risk…It is not going to be easy. I quit, lol. tuphat Jack Rob

Billy Bob
Billy Bob (@guest_2057151)
May 8, 2025 01:38

I am reading your earlier instructions. Thanks for that effort!

May you hit $50m, someday.

Kenny M
Kenny M (@guest_2057251)
May 8, 2025 08:20

Cheers to StS hitting 50MM!

ShawntheShawn👈🏾
ShawntheShawn👈🏾 (@guest_2057300)
May 8, 2025 09:40

Ha-ha, thanks 😀

Jack
Jack (@guest_2060389)
May 13, 2025 16:06

Why stop at 50m? How about 100m!?

tuphat
tuphat (@guest_2057341)
May 8, 2025 10:35

ShawntheShawn remains the Shawniest Shawn across the multiverse.

tuphat
tuphat (@guest_2057350)
May 8, 2025 10:43

Just for fun, can you check my math?

$1,000 cash can support $50k notional. One round trip generates $100k notional. So $50m notional could be done with 500 such round trips, spread across the 90d promo period?

ChannelZ28
ChannelZ28 (@guest_2057437)
May 8, 2025 12:25

I didn’t do the math, but that would be some serious churning dedication.

mjm
mjm (@guest_2057505)
May 8, 2025 13:49

you need 50k initial deposit. Other than that keep in mind a buy/sell, even with no movement in the market, will instantly lose you some money because of the spread. See my other comment: https://www.doctorofcredit.com/oanda-forex-trading-platform-up-to-5000-bonus/#comment-2057497

tuphat
tuphat (@guest_2057832)
May 8, 2025 18:57

Yes, $50k deposit, but you can trade $1k at a time, leaving the other $49k in cash.

ShawntheShawn👈🏾
ShawntheShawn👈🏾 (@guest_2058034)
May 8, 2025 23:05

BUT:

3.4 OANDA expects that all entrants will participate in its bonuses and promotional offerings fairly so that our other customers may also enjoy OANDA’s services. Therefore, this Promotion is subject to a fair use policy and consequently OANDA has the right to withhold the benefits of the Promotion if it has reasonable belief that there has been unfair or abusive conduct in breach of the Promotion Terms. Examples of conduct that will be considered unfair or abusive include, without limitation:
a) co-operation, collusion or organization of trades from the same source; b) using minimal stop-loss or take-profit levels for the sole purpose of meeting the Minimum Notional Trade Volume Requirements or the Crypto Trade Volume Requirement set forth in paragraphs 3.2(a) and (b) respectively;

Without using minimal stop-loss to restrict your loss, you could lose a lot of money (in addition to the spread fees) unless you are really good at forex trading. For such a big bonus, I assume Oanda will take a closer look at your account. tuphat

Tuphat
Tuphat (@guest_2058114)
May 9, 2025 01:18

As you likely know, they had similar language in previous offers. Personally, I didn’t use stop-loss orders, I just closed the position after 1 minute or so.

ShawntheShawn👈🏾
ShawntheShawn👈🏾 (@guest_2058220)
May 9, 2025 08:52

Yes, I noticed they added similar language after the first round of promotion, and some folks received the bonus fine with minimal stop-loss used for the $500 bonus.

However, this time you are aiming for a $10K bonus. Will you bet on that Oanda won’t look at your account and enforce the rule? It is too much risk to take IMO, as Oanda would have a legitimate reason to deny your bonus and you could end up losing a lot from your pocket. Without using the minimal stop-loss, you could still lose a significant portion of your position even within 1 minute. It is not that the $10K is not doable, but it is going to require a lot of effort and attention with a cool head to minimize the cost if you are not experienced in forex trading.

tuphat

tuphat
tuphat (@guest_2058255)
May 9, 2025 09:40

Everything you say is true. However: I think the $1000 bonus tier ($1m notional trade value) may be the sweet spot now.  If we assume “best case” loss of $20 per $100k position (by almost immediate closeout), then 5 roundtrips would get you to the required trading level, to net $900, without a huge amount of effort or risk. Just my musings.

(In this scenario, the bet would essentially be $100 that they will come through with the bonus.)

ShawntheShawn👈🏾
ShawntheShawn👈🏾 (@guest_2058646)
May 9, 2025 17:38

I agree that the $1K bonus tier is much more doable than the $10K bonus tier for most people.

Jack
Jack (@guest_2060392)
May 13, 2025 16:07

tuphat Are you going for the $1000 bonus?

porcupine73
porcupine73 (@guest_2059100)
May 10, 2025 23:37

ShawntheShawn what would you think about taking the opposite trade on another FX broker as a hedge? Then one could let the trades ride for longer on OandA to generate some realistic looking losses and/or gains. Although yes, it will cost more to reach the required volume because of having to eat the spread 4x for one buy and sell on two different brokers.

ShawntheShawn👈🏾
ShawntheShawn👈🏾 (@guest_2059725)
May 12, 2025 12:22

Somehow I never received the email notification for your tagging.

Not sure whether you will get caught, but…

Understanding NFA Compliance Rule 2-43bRule 2-43b was implemented by the U.S. forex (FX) industry’s self-regulatory organization, the National Futures Association (NFA). It’s known as the “FIFO rule” and, essentially, eliminates hedging. Hedging in forex trading is where a trader will have both a long and a short position in a single currency pair at the same time, offsetting each other.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/n/nfa-compliance-rule-2-43b.asp

porcupine73

mjm
mjm (@guest_2057497)
May 8, 2025 13:39

buy/immediately sell the least volatile, low spread currency pairs. Assuming between your buy and sell, the price does not change, and the spread is 2 pips, and the lot is worth 100k, you’d have to “wash trade” 250 times. And each of those round trips would cost you 2pips * 100k * 250 = $5000 cost to make these trades (might be off by a factor of 2 here, someone please let me know if my math is wrong). You can view historical spread data for currency pairs by googling “oanda historical spreads”. It is usually under 2 for that pair. If I had 50k, I would look for a lower spread currency pair than USD/EUR, but that’s very very likely one of the lowest already.

All this assuming the pair doesn’t move while you trade and assuming the spread doesn’t widen.

tuphat
tuphat (@guest_2057866)
May 8, 2025 19:31

I think we are on pretty much the same page, and maybe identifying the sweet spot (relatively speaking) of this offer. If we assume “best case” loss of $20 per $100k position, then 5 roundtrips would get you to the $1m notional trade volume tier and a $1000 bonus, less $100 of incurred losses, to net $900. All without a huge amount of effort.

snailrock
snailrock (@guest_2055609)
May 6, 2025 00:11

There’s a new version for 2025:
page: https://www.oanda.com/us-en/
terms: https://www.oanda.com/assets/documents/1913/OC__OCAN_Welcome_Bonus_Promotion_TCs_-_2025.pdf

Now $100-$10,000, with higher trade volume requirements.  William Charles

BadgerHedge
BadgerHedge (@guest_2003187)
February 12, 2025 13:51

Sketchy to deal with – would stay away.

tuphat
tuphat (@guest_2056668)
May 7, 2025 14:52

YMMV but I have done previous promos and never had problem getting paid out. You gotta understand, however, that you’re almost certain to lose a little on the vig, regardless of how careful you are.

David
David (@guest_2002211)
February 10, 2025 21:21

Anyone got 1099 from Oanda for the $500 bonus in 2024?

Pluv
Pluv (@guest_1985821)
January 15, 2025 14:54

Received my $500 bonus today. Didn’t file a FINRA complaint yet.

Erv
Erv (@guest_1983579)
January 11, 2025 23:47

Dear X X, 

Thank you for reaching out to our customer support team regarding the welcome bonus promotion. Upon review, it appears that the promotion wasn’t signed up for during the registration process, which is why the bonus wasn’t applied.

These people are crooks.

Pluv
Pluv (@guest_1984143)
January 13, 2025 10:52

File a FINRA complaint. That’s what I’m doing.

Erv
Erv (@guest_1985930)
January 15, 2025 17:45

Haha Finra Said they dont have jurisdiction and forwarded it to Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC). No hopes to get anything but will see