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RiskandReward
RiskandReward (@guest_1831921)
April 17, 2024 00:48

I was reading over the fee announcement email and there seems to be two conflicting statements in how to avoid the fee:

Starting May 15, a $3 monthly platform fee will apply to clients with less than $10,000 in M1 assets or without an active Personal Loan. Each billing cycle will last 30 days—meeting platform requirements* at least one day during each cycle will ensure this fee is waived for you.”

–this looks like if you have $10k in assets for at least ONE day in the billing cycle the fee is waived

In the fine print: *You will be charged the $3 Monthly Platform Fee if at any point during the 30 days prior to program launch your total aggregate M1 Earn and Invest balances do not equal or exceed $10,000 or you do not have an active M1 Personal Loan.

-this looks like if you DO NOT have $10k in assets EVERY DAY for at least 30 days before the program launch you will be charged $3

Is this confusing anyone else or am I not reading this right?

Pluv
Pluv (@guest_1827103)
April 6, 2024 22:13

Regarding the new promotion tiers on their website, I’m interested in the $250 for $50k tier. What is not clear is how long the funds must remain in the account. The terms state that the deposit must be made within 14 days and that the bonus is deposited after 6 months, but it does not state if the funds must be kept in the account the entire time. Does anyone know?

Link: https://m1.com/new-customer-deposit-1/

ShawntheShawn👈🏾
ShawntheShawn👈🏾 (@guest_1827120)
April 6, 2024 22:51

The total aggregate Deposited Value1 made to an M1 taxable investment account within the first fourteen (14) calendar days of New User Sign-up Date must remain equal to, or greater than, the value after the net deposit was made (minus any losses due to trading, market volatility or margin debit balances) until the Pay-out Date. Reallocation of any funds transferred externally, or internally to any other M1 services (e.g., M1 Spend), prior to the Pay-out Date will disqualify you from this Promotion. M1 reserves the right to revoke the Promotional Credit2 cash deposit if the total aggregate transferred Deposited Value1 is not retained in your M1 taxable investment account until the Pay-out Date. Pluv

Pluv
Pluv (@guest_1827268)
April 7, 2024 10:56

Got it, thanks

Joe D
Joe D (@guest_1826347)
April 5, 2024 07:38

Do NOT use the new platform as they keep changing the rules and fees.

Peek
Peek (@guest_1826418)
April 5, 2024 10:22

I don’t think it’s anything new, same platform they are just changing the fee structure. I hate the change but with the fees to get out I’ll be staying with them until I have enough assets to get Fidelity to forgive the fee. I do like their platform but I have doubts it will survive this change.

ZG
ZG (@guest_1824130)
April 1, 2024 17:43

Looking for someone’s email of M1 who opened the account before Jan 31 2024, when the bonus was $250. If you can send me your account email to gosocks5bcejz.at.gmail.com it will benefit both of us, remember, it has to be opened before Jan 2024

Paul W.
Paul W. (@guest_1821445)
March 28, 2024 12:21

I used someone’s referral link on the old thread (don’t remember which one) for the $250 bonus back in early February when it was still valid. I met the requirements, but didn’t have the bonus post so I followed up and now they’re asking for the email of the referrer to approve it. Since they’re manually crediting the $250 to both me and the referrer, I’m assuming it doesn’t matter who’s email I put down, only that they have a currently open M1 account associated with it. I opened a burner email at m1referralissues (at) maildrop.cc so if someone can provide me a valid email, I’m betting there’s a free $250 in it for both of us. Figure I should ask ASAP since I’m guessing a lot of people will be closing their M1 accounts now that they going to start charging a fee.

ogvon
ogvon (@guest_1831190)
April 15, 2024 13:53

Paul W. Did this end up working for you?
I got referred in discord and the dude won’t answer lol.

Maya
Maya (@guest_1831271)
April 15, 2024 15:48

Not sure about Paul, but it worked with another user here.

Carlzjr
Carlzjr (@guest_1819242)
March 24, 2024 20:07

So prepping for May-01… How’s the closing go? Can it be done over chat? How long do trades take to settle before withdrawing?

Ben
Ben (@guest_1815930)
March 18, 2024 14:11

Cue the outrage at the $3 monthly fee but I think this a brilliant move on their part to weed out the cheapskates (like myself) that only want the account for lucrative referrals.

ntn
ntn (@guest_1816016)
March 18, 2024 16:28

Outrage is a bit strong, but I am peeved bc I thought I had M+ until September. They could have at least honored it rather than instituting a blanket fee for everyone. Will be closing as well.

Other Ben
Other Ben (@guest_1816031)
March 18, 2024 16:47

I have a nephew with probably $800 invested with M1 who never got a sign-up or referral bonus. He’s going to get hit pretty hard by this $36/year fee. ACATing his investments out would cost $100. So basically he has to liquidate his investments and move elsewhere. Pretty sour deal.

Ben
Ben (@guest_1816740)
March 19, 2024 19:49

That’s definitely a sour deal. Sometimes other brokerages will cover the transfer fee.

Dan
Dan (@guest_1817646)
March 21, 2024 01:40

My other brokerage was willing to reimburse me but I couldn’t find any proof of M1 charging the fee. Not sure if they just didn’t charge it but it isn’t in any of my statements.

Peek
Peek (@guest_1817746)
March 21, 2024 10:07

You taking about the transfer fee? Or the monthly. The monthly fee kicks in in May. The transfer fees are outlined here: https://help.m1.com/hc/en-us/articles/7987205422867-How-to-transfer-accounts-out-of-M1#:~:text=There%20is%20a%20%24100%20outgoing,incur%20a%20fee%20of%20%24100.

Carlzjr
Carlzjr (@guest_1819241)
March 24, 2024 20:03

Mmm thats a long gamble. I feel they may find out most of their user base are cheapskates (also like myself)… and most folks with plans on keeping $10k+ in a brokerage are going to be at Fidelity or Schwab. And although I do really like their app/web interface, not worth $3/mo, and not enticing/established enough to keep $10k with them or open a retirement account.

I hope they don’t crater too bad though.

RiskandReward
RiskandReward (@guest_1815630)
March 18, 2024 00:16

And here comes the fee creep, first zero fees, then $3 per month, then……

Evilex
Evilex (@guest_1814331)
March 15, 2024 14:34

Got an email that my 0$ balance account will start getting 3$ monthly fee 🫡, sayonara, just sent a request to close it.

ThyKingdom
ThyKingdom (@guest_1814445)
March 15, 2024 16:47

Do we need to close the entire account including the login page or just the investment account?

mothman69
mothman69 (@guest_1814456)
March 15, 2024 17:16

I don’t believe you can close your entire M1 login/profile, only the investment account itself but that should be enough to avoid the fees.

Gadget - Bank Bonus Geek 🔗
Gadget - Bank Bonus Geek 🔗 (@guest_1814487)
March 15, 2024 18:09

Pretty sure they don’t allow accounts to go into the negative, but maybe that’s another amazing change they have planned.

Evilex
Evilex (@guest_1814483)
March 15, 2024 18:02

As moth man said, investment is fine, I didn’t find an option to entirely close the account itself, just the investment accounts, it does says “close all your accounts” on the option to close, they can’t come up with a fee after that.

DC4
DC4 (@guest_1814666)
March 16, 2024 02:26

How they going to pull $3 from you when the account is zero?

Gadget - Bank Bonus Geek 🔗
Gadget - Bank Bonus Geek 🔗 (@guest_1814678)
March 16, 2024 03:35

Ummm… Most banks don’t have a problem with it. Brokerages… Ummm… Not so sure.

Evilex
Evilex (@guest_1814732)
March 16, 2024 08:30

They could make my account go negative? I’m not about to find out lol, rather play it safe and just close it , I’m not gonna use it anyways so no real reason to risk it, like, they literally sent me an email telling me “they will start charging me 3$ a month”

Roy
Roy (@guest_1814230)
March 15, 2024 12:23

There seems to be two options to avoid to new $3 monthly fee starting May 15:

  1. Increase and maintain the balance to $10,000 by 4/15 (You will be charged the $3 Monthly Platform Fee if at any point during the 30 days prior to program launch your total aggregate M1 Earn and Invest balances do not equal or exceed $10,000 or you do not have an active M1 Personal Loan).
  2. Close your M1 accounts ($100 outgoing ACAT fee for all account types and an additional $100 closing fee for retirement accounts).

Robinhood would reimburse up to $75 for transferring at least $7,500, but that’s not enough to cover the fees entirely and I don’t know if Robinhood would issue 1000-MISC for that. I might have to add funds to M1. It just does feel good to have 10k tied to them until I can withdraw from my IRA.

Ivan
Ivan (@guest_1815663)
March 18, 2024 01:54

so, the $200 IRA closure & transfer fee equals 5.5 years of M1 annual fees. What’s the probability M1 shuts down (or sold) earlier, and customer accounts will get transferred somewhere anyway?

One strategy to avoid at least the $100 transfer fee is to sell the assets (consider any tax-related issues for taxable accounts) and withdraw all cash via a connected bank account. Any retirement funds can be then re-deposited to a different IRA account within 60 days to avoid penalties, taxes, etc. This could work for smaller and accounts with less diverse holdings.