Posted by William Charles on August 22, 2019
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Published on August 22nd, 2019 | by William Charles

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Hilton Timeshare Offer – Get 4/5 Nights In NYC Or Hawaii + 100k Points For $749/$999

The Offer

Direct link to offer

  • Hilton Grand Vacations (Hilton’s timeshare brand) is offering discount rates and points.  As part of this deal you need to complete a two hour timeshare presentation and pitch. Deals are as follows (all included 100,000 Hilton points):
    • 3 nights in New York City for $749
    • 5 Nights in Honolulu for $999
    • 5 nights in Waikoloa for $999
  • You should also be able to get the following offers:
    •  3n in Myrtle Beach, SC + 25 000 points for $199 + tax
    • 5n in Waikoloa + 20 000 points + $200 Spend a Night On Us certificate + $250 Grand Experience certificate + 6d car rental for $915 (tax in)
    • 5n in Waikiki + 20 000 points + $200 Spend a Night On Us certificate + $250 Grand Experience certificate for $803 (tax in)

Our Verdict

Much more expensive than previous deals, but longer stays and more points.  It’s never a good idea to accept the offer listed as you can almost always get more from it. Call the number listed and you should be able to get something better (if you call and say you’re interested but say your partner isn’t sure it’s worth doing).

It’s not worth doing these presentations if you’re easily convinced, remember that almost nobody goes into a timeshare presentation thinking they want to buy a timeshare.

Hat tip to reader ReverendK



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Nate8
Nate8

FYI says “offer expires July 31, 2019”

The Man
The Man

Looks like it still allows you to purchase. I’m sure they will honor it.

JohnN
JohnN

I booked the Waikoloa offer as is on the link. I didn’t bother to try to call in as the $915 offer doesn’t seem that much better to me compared to the 100k points.

After booking you still need to call to choose dates. Currently for Waikoloa they only had until Dec 31, so I’m waiting to find out if my dates for 2020 will be approved.

Additionally, probably because of the July 31, 2019 expiration, the 100k points were not automatically added. When calling to book the dates, I asked about this and provided my hilton honors number. After short discussion I was able to send a screenshot of the purchase page to the agent and they added the 100k points.

Jason
Jason

when did you call/book? I called and the rep said waikoloa was booked through September 2020…

But it seems like you said they have dates before Dec 31 this year?

JohnN
JohnN

Called yesterday. They very well could call back I guess and say that they are fully booked until September 2020, but on the phone they told me that they can not see dates after December 2019. So it’s not clear which agent was correct, they are supposed to give me a callback next week.

YoniPDX
YoniPDX

Wow that pretty incredible considering that there are four Waikoloa Hilton Grand Vacations Club resorts locations. Self park at one location is $30/night

Jason
Jason

I called today and they said they are fully booked in Waikoloa through September 2020. When did you call?

ReverendK
ReverendK

Must be a mistype, they never mentioned expiration when I called.

YoniPDX
YoniPDX

Do they still hit you with a resort fee on top of the nightly rate?

vince
vince

yes… call and ask for it to be waived during the negotiations

ReverendK
ReverendK

They told me on the phone that the price already includes resort fees.

Gadget 🕵️

For Orlando, resort fees were taken care of. Parking was not waived. I would assume these would be the same.

YoniPDX
YoniPDX

Gadget 🕵️

How did the purchase code OTA ? Hilton as a Hotel or other? TIA

Gadget 🕵️

Actually, looking back, for the Hilton Grand Vacations, I booked that on a Schwab Plat. Amex.. because I assumed it would count as travel. It didn’t get 5x MR on the rewards page, but it shows as travel on the transactions page, go figure. On transaction page, shows HILTON GRAND VACATIONS HILTON GRAND VA – ORLANDO, FL. In rewards, says HILTON MKT PKGS ADV FD, earned lowly 1x MR.

On the hotel charges incurred during the HGV stay, self-parking & food charges (breakfast was free at Embassy Suites, but we ate dinner and charged it to the room), they were consolidated after checkout. I used my Hilton Amex card. 7x HH points earned.

Keep in mind my vacation was Orlando – Not NYC or HI, but I imagine policies are the same for Hilton Grand Vacays.

YoniPDX
YoniPDX

Thanks Gadget 🕵️

Per chance did you stay at Embassy Suites @ Lake Buena Vista Resort near Disney or a the ES @ Lake BV South?

The ‘Details of Participation’ for the 3N/4D + 50Kpoints @$199 offer fine print – states:

“… Standard hotel room at a Hilton Honors™ portfolio hotel (valued at $175-$500/night) for up to four people.”

With that info, I was considering rooms at the Waldorf Disney (extra Park hours when staying at Disney hotels) But Parking is $37 and resort fee is $45. Waldorf rooms are over/under $500 but think that breakfast for 6 at Embassy suites and $13/day parking w/ Disney shuttle is afar better deal.

So thanks for the headups about Embassy Suites.

Thanks also for info about how it coded, I will use it to meet MSR, but will put resort spend on Hilton card.

Gadget 🕵️

Embassy Suites 8100 Lake St, near Disney. It was nice, very busy in July, far from fancy.

YoniPDX
YoniPDX

Gadget 🕵️ How far out (months) did you book after purchase, also could you have booked other Hilton’s in the area?

When I called, it seemed like they pushed really hard for the HGV locations and those were the only locations they could guarantee at six months out.

TIA

Gadget 🕵️

I booked same day, while on phone with sales rep – he contacted reservations and gave me the option of one hotel for my time-frame, before I agreed to signup. My dates were about 5 weeks out, and didn’t want to signup and then find out there was no availability. I had zero flexibility in SO’s vacay dates – mid summer, Orlando – go figure it was a busy time.

YoniPDX
YoniPDX

Thanks. I hear you same with me and SO PTO, since its non-refundable and the 18 month timeframe – We don’t vacation all that much in the US -and for HI would rather do one of the Waikoloa deals. When I called in – was thinking end of the month – they would be more aggressive to hit numbers, but perhaps I waited too long. LOL

YoniPDX
YoniPDX

Cool it is the Resort at Disney.

FWIW we are also double-dipping timeshares on this trip. I spent my youth in ATL so we did the Orlando parks rather than So. Cal parks.

But Bluegreen Getaways (dot com) does similar packages but they have:

4N/5D with $100 MCGC and either 2 days at Disney parks for Four (about $1000 for non-FL folks) or 5 days park-to-park passes at Universals Studio parks (checked about $1,300 cheapest discount) but this package is $997 (30 day refundable). Even check Veteran discount and not that far off those prices.

I learned about them actually when I was doing a Choice Hotels Low price guarantee phone call. So I forget what the offer was for similar type package but with Choice Hotel points.

HT to TPG they did a review of the Bluegreen Timeshare presentation he went thru ~ Google “I Suffered Through a Timeshare Sales Presentation for a Cheap Vacation” .

Its a good reason to say “No, I want/need to check out this other TS presentation first.” FOMO on better deal and its almost an impossible objection to overcome.

Double-dipping a TS vacation – as expensive as it is even with Miles and Hotels, parking, rentals, park food, etc Pretty good deal if Disney World/Universal is on your or your kids bucket list – with out meeting a MSR just to visit the park. LOL

They also have shorter stays or longer packages 7N/7D +$175 MCGC for $699 at Orlando and 20 other locations in US.

William Charles This be worth another Timeshare post on Bluegreeen getaways

Roenz Aberin
Roenz Aberin

Link below for a 4d/3n hotel in orlando, mrytle beach, las vegas with a 3n/4n royal Caribbean cruise and 15k pts for $399.

https://www.hiltongrandvacations.com/offers/rccl/0719/Group4/index.html

Leonel
Leonel

Any experience booking those cruises?

Burton

No, but based on the terms it looks like it would be an interior room with only a few route/ship options. It is silent on taxes, but I’m certain the gratuities would be added and wouldn’t be surprised if taxes were as well.

You could purchase an upgraded room, but at that point I wonder if you wouldn’t be better off looking for a promo to book it without the certificate.

YoniPDX
YoniPDX

“Book a 4-day/3-night stay at a hotel within the Hilton portfolio of brands”
bummer its capped at $169/night; So that means the Waldorf Astoria Orlando is not an option 🙁 haha

Alex
Alex

Received an email offer for 50k points with different options: $199 Vegas or Orlando( 3 nights), $299 New York (2 nights), $699 Hawaii (6 nights)

Fred
Fred

Could you share the link?

Burton

You don’t need a link – call the number from the picture and see what they offer you, then negotiate from there. If you know where you want to go browse through this and any previous DoC posts about these to get an idea of what others are getting. We signed up for 4 nights Orlando w/ 75k points and some other throw-ins for $299+tax with a rep in the hotel lobby (not over the phone). I should have negotiated harder but it was a better deal than I’d seen posted here and we were planning to go there anyway.

ADistinguishedFella
ADistinguishedFella

I wanna buy a timeshare!

motty
motty

I never been to a timeshare presentation before but I’d consider myself not easily manipulated or whatever the right word is. But at the end, do you flat out say “no- I will not purchase a timeshare?” or do you have to string them along and say “I will think about it bla bla”?

Brandon
Brandon

Timeshare presentations are notoriously annoying because of the duration and the salesman’s persistence. You will probably have to say “no, I am not interested in purchasing a timeshare” multiple times to be freed.

Jenna Janssen
Jenna Janssen

What do you mean by “freed”???

Gadget 🕵️

I have only done one TS presentation, but it was with Hilton, and recently, in July, Orlando.

“Freed” in the fact you MUST attend the presentation, you must check-in, do the presentation, see a powerpoint, get walked around a property, then sit in a cubical, with a salesman, then sit with a money man, and if you still say no, the salesman comes back with better or tailored offers… and then a 3rd guy comes back to offer you “non-ownership” vacay packages. Lastly, when you say no to that, you need to go to checkout… and they officially check you out as completing the sales presentation. They award you your “gifts”.. in my case just points.

I am pretty sure if you just storm out…. hands in the air…. you are defaulting on your end of the deal and you pay for the vacay. That would not be the proper way to be “freed”.

And, although they say two hours…. it takes about 3. They cloud that 2 hours with… “depending on your level of interest”. We weren’t very interested, but we didn’t just ignore the guys – we engaged, we played along, and I could see the value in signing up if you are someone who likes big exotic vacations, and knows how to plan them well in advance.

Tk
Tk

I agree totally

J Watt
J Watt

Some people string them along, some people direct say they have no intention of buying and just want the free stuff. It’s gonna depend on your sales rep. I did this exact deal in Orlando a couple years ago. I listened to the pitch, answered all their questions (where do you like to travel), but when they would ask me to buy I just kept repeating, I don’t think this is the right time for me to do this deal. You will transition between a couple sales reps as they try different sales techniques. I just kept repeating that (basically) as they poked for reasons, I didn’t really give them any specifics. They let me go without much hassle. I was there for about 2 hours total.

motty
motty

good info, thanks! I can probably deal with that.

aubergine
aubergine

We have two weak minded friends who ended up buying time shares this way.

Gadget 🕵️

You have to speak to another human, a couple of them, and they will ask you questions and try to engage you… but do you have to tell them anything in particular? No. They do ask you to keep an open mind, but that is not in the terms. I imagine you can take whatever tact you want to take as long as you aren’t going off on them or walking out mid-presentation.

If you ever been involved in a new car purchase, you see the similarities. I can’t afford this – we have financing. I don’t travel enough – you can let your points build up and go whenever you want. How much do you spend on vacations now – our points values don’t change. Hilton doesn’t have properties where I want to go – Go thru REI, or take a cruise with our points.

They have some convincing arguments, but “they will respect your decision” after they give you their spiel.

YoniPDX
YoniPDX

Book a 2nd competing TS presentation on the same trip, then you an objection they can’t overcome very easily. “We need to view the other presentation before we can make a decision, so we can weigh the pros/cons of both, then see if either option pencils out and makes good monetary sense.”

Always reply with logical responses ” I think that travel can be good or stressful” vs ” I enjoy travel or I love to travel” I

Jason
Jason

wait so can i pick the dates i want? or do they just pick for you?

Gadget 🕵️

Yes, they are going to tell you when you are available to go on vacay, and contact your boss. /s

You can book it when you sign up, or you can book it later. I think they give you up to a year to use it (DO VERIFY THAT), but I did it same day, as I didn’t want them to tell me nothing was available on my specific dates later down the road.

ELi
ELi

too bad no opportunities for Maui or Kauai.

raj
raj

> $200 Spend a Night On Us certificate + $250 Grand Experience certificate + 6d car rental for $915 (tax in)

What do these benefits mean?

Thomas
Thomas

Seems beyond straight forward:
200 credit to be used towards rack rate of one night at a hotel
250 credit to be used towards an experience (spa)
6 day car rental …. come on

Alex
Alex

I wouldn’t say it’s ‘beyond straight forward’. There’s data points of hilton not honoring the spend a night on us cert (I believe it’s a mail in rebate essentially) and I’m pretty sure there’s limitations on its use. Also, Grand Experience can mean many different things. You listed spa treatment, but is there anything else? I’m just saying it’s a valid question. 6 day car rental is clear, granted, but again, there might be limitations on its use.

HardTacoKit
HardTacoKit

We don’t get got, we go get!

Derek
Derek

One of my favorite statements on Always Sunny

NK3
NK3

Since you are booking these via Hilton Grand Vacations (and not directly from Hilton), would you receive elite benefits at the hotels (like breakfast, etc)? I am guessing you would have to pay for parking, but what about resort fees? Also, any data points whether these code as Hilton purchases when using a Hilton branded Amex?

Burton

I signed up for one of these at the hotel on our summer vacation last month and it did qualify for 12x points with my Hilton Biz card. It showed up as HILTON GRAND VACATIONS on my statement and the full amount, including tax, earned 12x (3x on all purchases, 9x bonus points).

Gadget 🕵️

What Burton said is right for out-of-pocket expenses, points wise, is recognized by your CC… But they don’t treat you as a hilton member at the hotel, in my experience. I got told at the front desk that because Grand Vacays booked it, I didn’t get bennys. I didn’t fight hard because all I am is Silver… which is supposed to get me faster Internet. My Firestick would have appreciated it.

Kimbra
Kimbra

Which hotel do they use in Waikoloa? If it is the main Hilton, sounds good to me. How do i get the “5n in Waikoloa + 20 000 points + $200 Spend a Night On Us certificate + $250 Grand Experience certificate + 6d car rental for $915 (tax in)”?

Bruce
Bruce

I checked out the HONOLULU package and $149.45 in taxes were added. Also, the summary says ‘Hilton area hotel or Hilton Grand Vacations Club.” I’d assume the vacation club is nice but what ‘Hilton area hotel’ might they stick you in? Can anyone with who booked the Hawaii offer share where they were booked?

Erik
Erik

you can call and ask about the exact property you will get booked at. for waikoloa, it’s Kings’ Land by Hilton Grand Vacations.

Jason
Jason

im actually heading to the big island soon. i called and asked…

they said the waikoloa offer is sold out through september 2020. something in her tone told me she was maybe being dishonest. has anyone else called and inquired about waikoloa?

Erik
Erik

not true. i asked about july and august of 2020 and these dates haven’t even been loaded in their system. once loaded, there should be full availability.

Henry
Henry

i bought and attended one couple months ago. Am I still eligible?

Gadget 🕵️

You may not participate in this promotion if you have an open, incomplete package requiring attendance at a sales presentation, or have participated in a sponsor promotion requiring attendance at a sales presentation: (i) within the last year at the property or properties promoted in this offer, or (ii) within the last six (6) months at any other properties.

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