Earlier this year it was announced that Wyndham would be replacing the flat 15,000 points per bedroom award rate across all properties to three different award tiers of 7,500, 15,000 or 30,000 points per night. The website and phone line stopped accepting reservations under the old program a few hours ago and now Doctor of Credit readers are starting to see the new pricing show up. The break down is supposed to:
- 7,500 points (or 1,500 points + cash): 3,000+ properties
- 15,000 points (or 3,000 points + cash): All remaining properties
- 30,000 points (or 6,000 points + cash): Fewer than 200 properties
Some properties that cost 30,000 points per night pricing are: Wyndham Lake Buena Vista Disney Springs Resort Area & Caesar’s palace Vegas. I’m hoping that Wyndham will provide a full list of properties under the different tiers, so we can track devaluations overtime but Wyndham said such a list would not be available before the new pricing came into effect and it’s unclear if that will change. There will be some additional announcements made in the next 12 hours.
Noticed that Club Wyndham Reunion at Orlando is now 45k per night, although it’s a 3-bedroom. Don’t know if Wyndham introduced a new tier or it’s counted as 15k x 3 per night.
seems a lot more than 200 properties are 30,000 points. In vegas there are several besides caesars palace that are 30000. in sf most were either not available or 30,000
Wow, pretty much the undesirable properties are places in the 7500k point category. Can’t find one costing 7500k that I would want to stay at when there are properties at other hotel chains that are better point redemptions.
The Wyndham in Melbourne, Australia went up to 30K. I made a speculative booking at 15K a night a couple of days ago for January during the Aussie Open. Now I’m really going to drive my trip toward those dates to keep that booking!
Wyndham grand Clearwater beach and Viva Wyndham Palace La Romana are up to 30K.
So glad I booked them in advance.
This is a big devaluation.
Here or there you could find an old Travelodge or a rundown Super 8 for 7.5K but otherwise its all 15K and the better properties 30K.
Hyat is now by far the best.
I just called this morning and told them that I tried to make a booking last night at the old rate and couldn’t (which is true), and they helped me make the booking at the old rate. (Actually, I think that what they did was put enough points into my account for the booking at the new rate and book it.) I got the Wyndham Grand Clearwater Beach over Memorial Day weekend, when the money rate is $486, so I’m happy.
Have 2 cards grandfathered into the 15,000 points, and the last couple years Barclay has waived 1/2 the annual fee. For now we’ll keep it since we use the points at the Days Inn Hershey each year, which stayed at 15K. Rates in Summer are around $200/night and it’s right by the park, so it represents a good value for us. Also used points for 2 nights at the beginning of next year at the Deerfield Beach Resort which went up to 30K. Originally had 3 nights at the Cayman property for later in the year, but didn’t like that it was on the other side of the island, as we’re only there 3 nights and wanted to be in the heart of things.
We stay at the Hershey days inn also. We were glad it stayed at 15K. Most of the Ocean City/Virginia Beach properties also remained at 15k. The ocean city properties are over $300 after taxes for summer dates. Are the redemptions as good as they used to be, no, but still opportunities to get $.0125-.02 per point.
Spoke to a timeshare rep this morning. The only Wyndham time share properties increasing in price are Rio Mar Puerto Rico, Bonnet Creek (Orlando), and Clearwater. The change is not effective in the timeshare system yet (the rep mentioned that they typically get updated later then the main/non timeshare systems), so I was able to book Rio Mar at 15k a night just now.
Austin increased as well.
You booked Rio Mar in PR for 15k?
Rio Mar Puerto Rico is showing 30k on the website. How do you book 15k? is there a timeshare phone number you can call?
Yes call the main reservation line and tell them you want to make a reservation with points at the timeshare property and they will transfer you. It’s possible it’s gone up by now but prices you see online could also be for the hotel as the timeshare price isn’t listed (I don’t think)
Oops, forgot to book my hotel from the promotion last year (15k points for 2 stays with masterpass). Guess the points will sit in my account and expire.
I’ll take them 🙂
You could transfer your Wyndham Rewards points to Caesars Total Rewards points. You can then cash them out Caesar’s properties for generally 1 cpp. You can transfer up to 30k points per year and it must be in groups of 10k points. This is what I plan to do for the rest of my points.
15k points still get you many places and 3000 places are only 7.5k now, so 2 nights
William, do you think it’s worth keeping the $69 AF Wyndham card if we’re grandfathered in to the 15k points per year? It was definitely worth it before but now I’m not so sure.
It is if you have a destination with a good redemption value in mind. That’s $34.50, $69, or $138/night, which can easily beat a lot of cash prices. Otherwise, the flexibility of cash is better.
I’m not sure what I’ll do; we like the all-inclusives, and they’re usually $200+, but Wyndham points expire 4 years after they’re earned, and Viva all inclusive properties require a 3+ night stay. There’s no saving up for that without manufactured spending, which is no longer worth it for me (2x with points now at like 0.7cpp).
why would u even MS this card? 2 pts per $ is a huge opportunity waste regardless of the old version or new version. One could get like huge value grocery ms at gold card or other grocery cards. As for everyday spending plenty of cards beat that. Wake up
I’d have a look at areas that you’re likely to go frequently and see what the options are like. I still think it’s a pretty good deal personally, the flip side is I hate having to use up single night stays.