Update 2/11/20: New pricing is now in effect, share any major changes you notice
Today Wyndham has announced that some properties will be moved from the three different tiers/categories they offer (7,500 points per night, 15,000 points per night or 30,000 points per night), these changes will go into effect on February 11th, 2020. Here is what you should know:
- If you book now you’ll automatically receive the lowest pricing (e.g if you book a property before February 11th that increases in price you’ll keep the current price. If you a book a property before February 11th and it decreases in price you’ll automatically receive a refund).
- They are not releasing a list of properties changing category ahead of time, but we know the following:
- 91% of properties (9,200) will not change tier
- 500 properties will move down a tier
- 300 properties will move up a tier (80 of these will be moving from 15,000 to 30,000 points per night, the rest are moving from 7,500 to 15,000)
- Wyndham anticipates this was be a once a year process moving forward
Obviously it’s difficult to know how bad these changes are without having a list of properties, that being said Wyndham is handling this as best you can. They are:
- Providing advanced notice
- Automatically refunding points
Personally I appreciate that type of openness and wish more loyalty programs treated customers with this level of respect, even if negative changes are being made. Last year they introduced these different tiers, before that all properties cost 15,000 points per night.
Wyndhan is very tricky with their rewards program. They promise a “free night ” if you do certain things, and you get only 7500 points. Yes there is a level of room you can redeem for 7500 points, in theory under the rewards program, but I think it is either fraud or typically sneaky. I have never seen a room you can get for 7500 points, at least in the markets where I travel (Gulf South and Texas mostly) Even rooms that go for $60-70 require 15,000 points.
These promotions are at worst fraud, and at a minimum, a false promise.
Sedona Rouge went from 15k to 30k. Very bummed.
looks like bonnet creek is now at 15k
Did you look up using specific dates? Maybe it’s varying by date? I’m still seeing 30K
I knew it, I just knew it! The Days Inn in Maui was one of the 80 hotels to go from 15,000 to 30,000 points a night. Was unable to cobble enough points for two 15,000 point nights. This has to be the worst 30,000 point room in Wyndham’s catalog (small, cramped and old). But its right on the beach and my wife and I loved it. Guess we will have to find another hotel. Love this points and miles game.
Looks like they left the vacation club properties alone again, which still means there’s good value out there. Pleasantly surprised..
Several properties in downtown Sam Francisco changed from 15k to 30k. However, the really nice boutique hotels all stayed at 15k which I was really worried about.
I have about 47k points expiring this week and so I have to just make a reservation (sort of speculatively) or I lose them. Anyone know if I make that reservation and then want to change it later if I can do that at that point? Or maybe I could cancel the reservation and get the points back and reset the clock on the 4 years? (my guess is a ‘no’ on the latter).
You can transfer some (30k a year) of your points to Total Rewards (Caesar’s program) and then later back to Wyndham Rewards to reset the 4-year “hard” expiration on those.
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/31455450-post7.html
I know Revel (Trademark) in Long Island City, NY should NOT be 30,000 points.
New Yorker hotel in New York, NY should NOT be 30,000 points.
Ramada in Flushing, NY should NOT be 30,000 points.
I hope these go to 15,000 points, which is fair especially considering the enormous competition in these areas.
I found quite a bit of value with Wyndham Rewards up until this past summer, as you could book their all-inclusive properties in the Caribbean and Mexico for 15K points. Over the past few years, I booked close to 14 weeks of reward nights at their all-inclusive properties. I still have 13 free nights remaining and plan on burning them over the next six months, and then wash my hands of Wyndham.
Gotta love that their spokesperson is the guy from Game of Thrones!
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