Posted by William Charles on October 10, 2019
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Published on October 10th, 2019 | by William Charles

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California To Ban Single Use Plastic Bathroom Miniatures From 2023/24

California Governor Gavin Newsom has signed into law a ban on single use plastic bathroom miniatures that will go into effect on the following dates:

  • Hotels with more than 50 rooms from 2023
  • Hotels with less than 50 rooms from 2024

Hotels that violate this law will be fined $500 for their first offense and $2,000 for additional violations. Major hotel brands Marriott & IHG have already pledged to remove bathroom miniatures from hotels before the 2023 deadline. I’ve said before that I think these changes are sensible and it makes sense to reduce this type of waste where possible. Others have concerns regarding tampering and also allege that this is just a cost cutting exercise for hotel chains.



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Scott
Scott

Damn liberals ruining bathrooms now. All so hotels can cut costs at the expenses of our children. SAD

Debit
Debit

Yeah. What’s next? Banning marrying your sisters? Thankfully Republicans are not as dumb as those Californians.

Don Hagstrom
Don Hagstrom

Just banning people marrying their brothers in Minnesota and then lying about it.

DK
DK

“We found no public records or credible sources contradicting Omar’s account of her past, nor any substantive evidence corroborating claims that Elmi is her brother or that their marriage was otherwise fraudulent. In addition, some of the claims offered in support of the rumor don’t seem to add up.

According to Omar’s proffered version of events, she fled the Somalian civil war with her family in 1991 and lived for four years in a refugee camp in Kenya before immigrating to the U.S. in 1995. Omar’s mother died when she was 2, so she and her siblings were raised by her father and grandfather. The Minneapolis Star Tribune reported just before the 2018 midterm elections that:

During an interview, Omar showed a reporter cellphone photos of documents from her family’s U.S. entry in 1995 after fleeing Somalia’s civil war. No one named Ahmed Nur Said Elmi, who is three years younger than Omar, could be seen listed in the documents.”

FYI ya’ll some dummies

jack
jack

Don with yet another false claim, but that’s Trump republicans now days. Hysterical conspiracy theories abound – lemme guess, Seth Rich, pizza gate, Hunter Biden, ya’ll gobble these up as they’re shoved down your throat by Fox & Friends.

Please keep it up, this administration and his supporters have been one of the most enjoyable trainwreck shit shows I can remember. I’d be more than happy to see Trump 4 more years – watching him stumble from shit storm to shit storm while accomplishing nothing as the majority of the populace goes about their daily lives unaffected.

It’s kinda like the Truman show where Trump is totally duped into thinking he’s doing great and amazing shit for the nation but really he’s just a crazy rambling fuck that we watch for enjoyment and to laugh at.

crovert
crovert

Funny enough, California is one of the states that still allows cousin marriage.

Matt
Matt

Funny enough, most countries in the world allow for cousin marriages.

One of the reasons (among other reasons) cousin marriage is banned in many states today was the rise of the eugenics movement in the United States during the early 1900s. In case anyone isn’t familiar with the eugenics movement, it was basically angry white men arguing about ways to keep their white gene pool as white as possible. This wasn’t limited to the United States. Groups in Germany around this time felt very strongly about this as well…

Using now-discredited science, some successfully argued in many statehouses for bans on cousin marriages. And even though it has been recommended for decades that these laws — based on faulty science — should be repealed, there is still a ban in many states.

The risks of genetic issues resulting from first-cousins having children have been greatly overstated.

Electroman

The US (somewhere), both Chinas and both Koreas. That’s it.

asdf
asdf

You’re an actual freak

Don Hagstrom
Don Hagstrom

This is totally what it is. Same with the plastic bags. That’s why the grocery stores went along with it. Just pile on the cost of living more. I mean, we pay $1 million for a small house, $3,000 or more per month for rent, $4.50 and up for gasoline but yeah, let’s pile on the misery even more. All while pretending that the extreme Democrats in the state really care for the little guy. And people keep voting them back in. I think they are testing the populace as to how much they can get away with before they are stopped. You know that Prop 13 is next on the chopping block.

Nick
Nick

“they are testing the populace as to how much they can get away with before they are stopped”?

I’d say they are more likely to be maximizing their short-term personal/familial/inner cycle profit and leaving the mess for the next government to “clean up”/or for the people to “eat up”.

DK
DK

Are you aware the original comment was sarcasm?

jack
jack

If Don isn’t aware that Trump and Giuliani are criminal stooges floundering from one crime to the next, I doubt he can understand the concept of sarcasm.

TomTX
TomTX

I find pump shampoo to be an upgrade, if it’s “misery” – that’s puzzling.

IDontShare
IDontShare

until you get the one that the disgrunted hotel worker jizzed in

SamL
SamL

This is not their first foray into bathroom politics.

DK
DK

well next it will be gender neutral soap scents I DONT WANNA USE NO GAY SOAP FLAVOR

Jenta
Jenta

Such great news! Thank you California!!!

Parts Unknown
Parts Unknown

Considering this is the state with rolling blackouts, affecting ~1 million people, perhaps they should reevaluate their priorities?

Don Hagstrom
Don Hagstrom

It’s OK for the trash to pile up on the streets, traffic moves at 5 MPH sometimes even at 10 PM at night in parts of Los Angeles, homeless camps everywhere but oh yeah we are saving the planet by charging 10 cents for plastic bags and banning single use containers in hotels. Nero really is singing while Rome is burning and the idiot voters here in California keep on saying “Thank You, Sir, may I have another”. You seriously can’t make this stuff up.

grrizzly
grrizzly

Don’t forget the straws madness.

DK
DK

Yeah I agree it is really weird to use a device made from petroleum that degrades into an invisible carcinogen to accomplish a task that people have done easily for hundreds of thousands of years. It’s almost like the straw itself was a paid solution looking for a free problem.

Don
Don

Sure, it makes much more sense to use a paper straw which dissolves halfway through my cup of soda.

DK
DK

what makes the most sense is just to drink out of the glass

jack
jack

OH MY GOD HOW WILL WE EVER SURVIVE USING PAPER STRAWS

*uses paper straw*
oh i guess its actually not a big deal

Ya’ll are nutjobs.

DK
DK

ITT the worst parts of LA = California

Don
Don

It could be the piles of human waste in San Francisco and Sacramento too. Take your pick.

jack
jack

Just for reference – I moved to LA last year. Don, like most republicans is a hysterical liar who wants to paint a picture that’s politically convenient to him. Realistically LA is a massive sprawling city, the few streets where trash and homeless pile up are probably less than 0.1% of the city – I certainly have never encountered them. I do however have access to some of the best restaurants, entertainment, bars, etc and I go to the beach almost daily. Personally I really enjoy LA – some don’t and that’s fine, but Don doesn’t share reasonable opinions, he shares politically motivated trash to make himself feel better.

Kevin
Kevin

They already have the solution to everything else… raise taxes.

DK
DK

Exactly, one of the best features of taxes is that you can use it to shape behavior and redirect away from bad behavior. Cigarette tax is a great example, or early 401k withdrawal. So a great solution would be to not ban single use plastics but to tax them to the point that its more economically sound to switch to reusable/low waste. So like cigarettes (which is in appropriate analogy since cigarettes and plastics both contain many of the same primary carcinogens ) you can elect to use them, but its gonna cost ya!

Don
Don

Perhaps asking for higher taxes on that Boston tea 250+ years ago could have helped the colonists kick that nasty caffeine habit…

DK
DK

I see you are a real student of history! In this scenario people were required to buy the tea and pay the taxes on it. In the scenario of shampoo you have the option to buy, or use literally anything else. I guess we shouldn’t even get in to the ideas about the tea being pure profiteering for the government, whereas with the shampoo ideally the government gets zero extra dollars, but whatever, cue the outrage machine!

Blkm
Blkm

Besides being ignorant of history while chastising someone else about it (colonists were in no way required to buy tea); the larger question given all your statist comments here & previously, is whether you know that you don’t actually have to deepthroat the boot while you kiss it.

Parkerthon
Parkerthon

I don’t have a problem if California forces all their people to live in paper bags on top of rotting organic garbage to save cockroaches. The issue I have is they are such a huge state, what they choose gets precedence over every other. Simpler for national businesses to comply with California’s whims than to carve up their operations model. It shakes out that way in the courts too. California always gets their way. So in the end California‘s calls the crazy tune for everyone else, especially aggravating to the ones that don’t subscribe to modern day liberal whims. People wonder why the fly over states get so irritated by California, this is why. How is the great pacific garbage patch Ohio’s problem? Can you honestly tell me a properly disposed and contained plastic straw bottle cup fork etc we put it in dense landfills(which we have plenty of space for btw) is still finding its way to ocean? How? It’s ridiculous. I personally don’t care about unhygienic reusable dispensers because I don’t use whatever random 25 cent soap shampoo lotion 3-in-1 hotels provide to me, but you can still add it to the list of California enforcing it’s warped world view(and problems) upon everyone else.

Danno
Danno

California has a lot of pull nationally because, like it or not, we aren’t separate countries. And as far as their disproportional pull, as an example, Ohio receives one vote for president for every 650,000 people or so, while California needs closer to 720,000 per vote (39.42m/55v). The senate is even more interesting, with all of those flyover states having as much say at states with much more than half of the population. Relatively, Ohio shouldn’t even matter nationally, because there are so few people. And Wyoming should be a blip on the radar. But they do have value, politically speaking, because they have disproportionate pull. Your argument isn’t only silly in its premise, ten minutes on Google prove it factually incorrect.

Parkerthon
Parkerthon

Indeed, that’s the reason it goes that way with California being dominant but that doesn’t mean it SHOULD be that way. You eschew the entire idea behinds states rights and what you’re advocating is a major weakening of states rights. The idea of states existed in the first place in order to create the united states and ensure states had significant say over their local government. It’s a blurry, always has been all the way back to the founding of our country(that’s what SCOTUS mainly deals with), but that doesn’t mean we should just blow it all away because a thin majority of Americans that all happen to live in very specific areas of the country want to change things to their liking so states rights no longer matter or are severely weakened. How convenient that those people that couldn’t sustain themselves without the flyover states and rural Americans they look down upon wish to call the song and have those living in less populace states play the tune for them. There’s a reason this balance was built into our government with the Senate. You would not have a democratic United States if you went too far in the direction of federal rule controlled by coastal urban cities. It’d be more akin to hunger games. A lot of people talk about slavery starting the civil war, but at its heart was states rights. That sensitivity hasn’t gone away either north or south. While it’s a blurry line to pick between things the federal government should be able to do(prohibiting ownership of slaves, abortion, immigration, etc), there’s still some boundaries that exist from the constitution that keep most Americans satisfied they have say within the government. Without that, we’d have a real problem much bigger than one bad leader or two vitriolic parties. So yes, Ohioans other midwest states do matter and, no, California shouldn’t overrule everyone else with their messed up legislation.

Parkerthon
Parkerthon

FYI you should google a bit yourself before you post things. Ohio is 7th largest state nationally and 7th largest in state GDP as well. Your neighbors north, Washington and Oregon, combined their population doesn’t quite reach Ohio’s. Saying the state doesn’t matter sounds awfully elitist. I’m thinking what you’re really saying is no state other than California matters which is precisely the attitude that makes everyone resent the state and the point behind my original post.

MoreSun
MoreSun

Our politicians priorities have always been their pockets.

DK
DK

so these politicians are in the bulk shampoo business?

Don
Don

At the very least, they are in the empty our wallets business

DK
DK

Ah yes, America, the poorest country on earth. Oh wait its the richest? These politicians are doing a crap ass job at emptying pockets!

SocialLover
SocialLover

geez are you a gubmint lackey or something?

Matt
Matt

Yeah, they should definitely do something about PG&E’s corporate incompetence.

DK
DK

yeah right but how is that related in anyway to plastic pollution?

DK
DK

I guess I’m not sure how the two things are related? Are you suggesting that government should only address one issue at a time? The single use ban is possibly a revenue generator for the state from the fines? The rollin black outs is PG+E flexing their muscle after the lawsuits. Very little to do with plastic pollution? My advice, go solar and tell PG/E to suck eggs.

Parkerthon
Parkerthon

They’re saying California’s government spends their time solving problems that are popular but don’t really have a real impact on anything meaningful. Meanwhile real problems that are impacting their citizens lives they can’t solve because they nearly always can’t be solved within the constraints of populist thinking.

DK
DK

So if I’m following the logic you are saying the plastic bottles is the right thing for government to be involved in, since its not possible to solve the real problems?

Parkerthon
Parkerthon

Should isn’t the word. It’s what it is thanks to the dysfunctional direct democracy Californians fell in love with. Only way to fix it is draft a new constitution at this point which will never happen. I’m just wondering how long it’ll take for the paradise tax to hit an unbearable point where the state implodes and loses their core industries… tech and entertainment.

Parkerthon
Parkerthon

Right all PG&E… Has nothing to do with how they’ve been held liable for failing power lines but denied the ability to quickly raise rates enough to do a full overhaul of the sprawling electric infrastructure going wherever citizens think is pretty and affordable to build, nature be damned(ironically enough).

jack
jack

Brilliant argument – because problem A exists, you shouldn’t fix entirely unrelated Problem B. Logical fallacies much dumbo?

jack
jack

You mean how a corporate utility shut down power because they refused to do their job and put profits over people? And you mean how those blackouts are becoming more and more necessary as climate change begins to take effect?

Rob
Rob

The tampering potential is just so revolting I will actively avoid California as well as Marriott and IHG because of this. And if I have no choice, I’ll bring my own stuff. It’s just gross.

Don
Don

Which is of course what the hotel chains want. That’s why they probably supported this bill. Same as when they pretend that they only want to wash the towels once a week in order to save Mother Earth. No, its to cut labor costs while pretending to really love the planet.

MoreSun
MoreSun

Truth. Marriott doesn’t do ANYTHING for good these days. Not even good stuff for Super Extra Bonvoyed Forever Elites.

DK
DK

why can’t it be both? in the end environmentalism centers around cutting costs.

Don
Don

And cutting quality of life

DK
DK

Yes exactly, the current ‘quality of life’ is unsustainable and has to be pared down. You should know TNSTAAFL.

Adam d
Adam d

people will buy more shampoo, leading to more plastic lol

Matt P
Matt P

Tampering sound apocryphal like razor blades in children’s candy on Halloween.

DK
DK

exactly these people are drinking the paranoid kool aid. Its a hotel room anything in it COULD be tampered with, but it almost certainly isn’t.

Don
Don

I’m more afraid of people drinking the “We need Big Government to save the world” kool-aid.

DK
DK

What some people actually believe: Use less plastic=big government infringing rights

Parkerthon
Parkerthon

Hotels in general are pretty gross if you fear “tampering”. I never trusted small bottles anyway to not be tampered with. Most you could pop the top off. Half the time they appear partially used. I still think passing a bill about this is pointless waste of time and unnecessary. Par for course out there.

Dubya
Dubya

Single use isn’t any more tamper resistant. If someone wants to tamper with it they can. They are in a hotel room with no one around, I guess you thought that the single use gets replaced for every customer. Only if they are used. I always bring my own and I know for a fact that if you don’t use the items they sit there for the next guest.

jack
jack

I will be the one to say it – bull fucking shit. You guys always threaten these dumb ass boycotts. You’re not going to actively stop coming to california (if you even did in the first place), that’s just stupid shit you post on message boards for imaginary internet points. Pathetic.

Hiima
Hiima

Totally want foreign fluids in my shampoo.

DK
DK

Yeah cause that’s a thing people do a lot. Do you guys get this stuff off some weird alt right blog and just regurgitate it out everywhere else?

Don
Don

We just watch the homeless peeing in the streets and assume that this could occur in the shared shampoo bottle too.

DK
DK

Then you’re either clinically paranoid, or an idiot rambling on the internet about all the homeless people staying in a marriott peeing in the shampoo. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and say see a psychiatrist.

Danno
Danno

Homeless people don’t stay in hotels…they’re homeless…but the fact that you’re afraid of a homeless guy sneaking into a Marriott to pee in your shampoo kind of backs up DK’s point.

Chucks
Chucks

You never went to a public high school? You don’t need many delinquents to ruin something for everyone.

Joseph
Joseph

Perhaps they should ban non-essential travel itself, which has a much greater environmental impact than miniature shampoo.

MoreSun
MoreSun

It would just end up on the streets…

crovert
crovert

But then how are climate activists going to jet across the planet to tell us Westerners how we’re destroying the planet, while overlooking where the majority of pollution and CO2 comes from?

DK
DK

Well the MAJORITY comes from cars and container ships. Jets is simply the highest PER PASSENGER but they have the fewest number of passengers. And Greta sailed here, so zero emissions. In Europe she called all the rich fucks out for flying their planes to the climate conference.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/apr/26/greta-thunberg-train-journey-through-europe-flygskam-no-fly

DK
DK

Well to save humanity they’ll either have to greatly reduce the carbon output of travel, or travel a lot less. I’ve got pretty big hopes for these e-bikes. Theres a algae-diesel jet fuel in the works thats pretty interesting as well.

Kevin
Kevin

I’m hoping my chain of choice (Hilton) will use this as an opportunity to present a solution. Personally, I think them providing sturdy reusable travel-size bottles which they let you top-up at the front desk to be a perfectly fine solution. Similar to airlines giving elites bag tags. Minimal cost to them, legal compliance, and a more secure option for travelers who would prefer not to use shared bulk items.

Don
Don

That would be reasonable. But that would require work and cost on their part; they won’t want to do it. You know they really just want travelers to bring their own shampoos and personal items and try to get them to feel super good about having to do it (saving the planet and all that jazz).

Kevin
Kevin

Yeah, unfortunately I do get that. Like the whole towel thing, don’t try to tell me it’s to save the oceans and whatnot.

But I do hope they see that, at least for elites at a certain level, this could be a differentiation that comes at a relatively low cost. They’re providing the product either way, giving out some bottles to elites and refilling them downstairs would be worth the marketing they’d get out of it.

Don
Don

Totally agree. Let’s see if the MBAs in the boardroom can figure that out. Speaking of elites, I’m sure all of the Hollywood celebs will be singing the praises of this new law all the way while traveling on their private jets with their locally sourced bottled water and individually-wrapped goodies.

DK
DK

I think you are losing sight of ‘improvement’ because its not ‘perfection’ which is always a mistake.

DK
DK

Its both. Saving the ocean is about saving money, they are one in the same. Use less. Use less soap, use less water, use less electricity. So saving the hotel money on soap, water, and electricity is by extension saving the oceans.

AnotherLump
AnotherLump

Considering the vast majority of plastic in the oceans is from SE Asia and China, this law will do nothing to save the oceans, not that they need saving anyway. If mankind disappeared tomorrow the only remnance of our existance in a few hundred years would be the pyramids. Earth would shrug us off like a gnat. You people are so smug and self important, you think you have much more influence on the world than you actually do.

Matt
Matt

No influence on the world? Man-made climate change and thousands upon thousands of species made extinct by human activity would indicate otherwise. Unfortunately, we (collectively) have a rather large influence on the world.

What you just said is complete nonsense.

BernieSandersArtery
BernieSandersArtery

actually what you just said is complete nonsense

Don
Don

If only the beach parking fees would then go down…

adam d
adam d

biodegradable sachets…only $3 at the front desk hahah

Jorge Perris
Jorge Perris

It’s funny that you mention this about the refillable bottles. I have been taking our empty bottles from home and refilling them at the hotels that have these bulk dispensers. I figure if the hotels start seeing their shampoo costs actually increasing as a result of these policies, then they will start thinking twice. At the very least, I go home with full size bottles of shampoo for the kids, wife, etc. Already saving money!

slowbrake
slowbrake

A man of action, bravo good sir.

Sim
Sim

Extending that logic, we might as well empty the dispenser every night in California. Seriously.

Don
Don

The politicians here in California already empty our pockets, why not?

DK
DK

So are you poor-mouthing on a blog dedicated to to a hobby which requires a person to have no high interest debt, excellent credit, and enough free time and disposable income to run around doing bank and credit card schemes all day? Really? Is that what you are doing?

Parkerthon
Parkerthon

That’s smart but… Ew.

DMitri
DMitri

“Personally, I think them providing sturdy reusable travel-size bottles which they let you top-up at the front desk to be a perfectly fine solution.”

Glad I’m not the only one who immediately came up with a solution before getting needlessly outraged over a nonexistent inconvenience.

grrizzly
grrizzly

“reusable travel-size bottles which they let you top-up at the front desk”

How about visiting the front desk to pick up a few squares of toilet paper (but not too many!) before doing #2?

Kevin
Kevin

When California implements their law to ration toilet paper, that’ll probably be what we have to do. Save the trees!

DK
DK

I don’t know what the fuss is about. I use the bulk soap and shampoo at the gym and in hotels all the time and for years, its not a problem.

Trevor
Trevor

It was kind of funny. I left a tip for housekeeping mid-stay. In return, she put like 8 more miniatures on the sink. It was like “you pat my back, I pat yours.”

With coconut lime shampoos.

Don
Don

You just single-handedly killed the planet. Another Arctic iceberg just melted! This is a JOKE for any snowflakes here who took me seriously.

MoreSun
MoreSun

I’m bummed, it’s nice not to have travel with your toiletries and to be able to try different brands when you travel. The tampering potential is far too great, just ew!

tuphat
tuphat

My closet full of miniatures just became collector’s items. Hello, eBay!

Geo
Geo

I’m sure the hotel chains will be donating significant amounts of their savings to match the number of miniatures frequent travelers donate each year. Because it’s not about saving money for them. Of course.

Gary Leff

California is NOT “Ban[ning] Single Use Bathroom Miniatures” they are only banning single use toiletries in plastic bottles. That’s a huge difference.

Geo
Geo

Gary Left and his 1% friends can still get their bathroom Gin from the bathroom mini bars, since he only drinks glass bottled Gin.

jack
jack

republicans are shitstains

whodidntante
whodidntante

It would have been more fun to watch if they made it go into effect Jan 1, 2020.

Newbie
Newbie

Looks like mini plastic bottle loving people never go on cruises because there are no mini plastic bottles on ships.
Please save the planet, not for yourself but for the your young kids or nieces/nephews or future kids.

El Cheapo
El Cheapo

Yup – I cruise a lot. It’s never even crossed my mind that someone put something in the dispensers. It will now – thanks…

Too address your other point, I purposely have no children, and neither do many of my more intelligent friends (the dumb ones have plenty though).

I’d love to see the population decrease in the future, as I feel that overpopulation is the single biggest problem in our world. The world’s population has doubled in the past 50 years. I can’t see how this type of growth is sustainable.

JamaicanTraveller
JamaicanTraveller

I’m fine with it, as I bring my own toiletries anyway (i.e. refillable travel containers). I collect the miniatures and donate to shelters. So tampering with the bigger fixed containers is not a concern for me.

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