Posted by William Charles on September 14, 2019
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Published on September 14th, 2019 | by William Charles

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Marriott: Peak/Off Peak Pricing To Go Into Effect On September 14th, 2019

Marriott has announced that a number of changes will be going into effect on September 14th, 2019. These changes are the following:

  • Introduction of peak and off peak pricing
  • Fifth night free changed to Stay 5, Pay 4
  • Changes to point advance
  • Changes to cash & points

Peak & Off Peak Pricing

The award chart will be as follows:

Peak and off peak pricing will be determined by a computer algorithm and properties won’t be able to affect this. Dates will be recalculated once per month, with Marriott ensuring there is an almost equal amount of peak and off peak dates – although most dates will fall under the standard pricing. Existing reservations won’t automatically reprice, meaning you’ll need to cancel and rebook if a property changes in price for your specific dates.

Fifth Night Free Change

Fifth night free will be renamed to stay for 5, pay for 4 and your cheapest night will be refunded.

Points Advance Change

When using points advance you’ll effectively be able to hold a room, but you can’t hold the price you receive. So if you use points advance when a property is off peak and then it becomes standard or peak you’ll be required to pay the higher price.

Cash & Points Change

There will be a new cash & points award chart as well.

Our Verdict

We have known that this peak and off peak pricing was coming for some time, overall I think the implementation is worse than expected but I guess there will be a lot of people booking rooms at standard/peak pricing only to cancel them if the price decreases.

Hat tip to TPG

 



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Emily
Emily

I got 2 questions.

1. Will the Chase/AMEX annual free night awards impacted by this chart? Or exempted? Does Marriott let us add more points to the free night award to make a booking on a peak season?

2. What about the Marriott 7 night travel packages? Lets say I want to do 7 nights straight on a category 4 hotel. But only one day in middle of 7 days is considered peak and requires 30k points, will I still be able to use the certificate?

Thanks.

Vanessa
Vanessa

Emily,

1. Seems like the annual free night certificates will definitely be devalued for peak rates, because they are based on points value. For example, the Marriott card free night award has a value of up to 35K points. As far as I know, you can’t add points to the free night award.

2. According to Frequent Miler, the 7 night category awards won’t be impacted since they are based on categories, so you should still be able to use them.

AJ777
AJ777

I spoke to them a few days ago.. the certificates cannot be supplemented with points.. absolutely idiocy.. given the devaluation. The 50k certificates have become worthless towards most good hotels over night .. just as Bonvoy “Brilliant” comes of age at 1 year.. time to #bonvoyedandclosed

Frogger
Frogger

Yeah there is no reason to have a Marriott Credit card anymore.

Pointz
Pointz

Let’s get hashtag started: #BonvoyedAndClosed. When you call to cancel your Amex Bonvoy card mention that you are not happy with new changes and that IHG has a great new card promotion that you will be taking

Mark
Mark

Good idea. I did this a few months ago when I called to cancel my SPG Biz.

PoorChurner
PoorChurner

Well that sucks if you redeem at peak 40k and your 5th night mysteriously drops to 30k off peak.

YF
YF

Good Point. But it seems rare.

Hadley V. Baxendale
Hadley V. Baxendale

Implementation remains to be seen but with respect to the Free nights from the Credit Cards, only the AMEX Brilliant (and the Ritz Carlton Visa) would seem to be definite keepers because they span 3 Categories — Standard Award Category 6, Off Peak Category 7, and Peak Category 5.

The Free night Category 4 and Category 5 certificates are definitely devalued as they can’t be used during Peak periods for their respective category bands and they do not creep up a category when Off Peak pricing is in effect for a hotel in next category above them.

It remains to be seen just how truncated one’s use of all these certificates are when Peak pricing goes into effect — i.e. how long and when are these stretches of peak pricing for a given hotel.

Jeff
Jeff

Wait, so for current reservations for after September 14th, our pricing isn’t locked in already?

mary w
mary w

According to TPG points advance reservations make before September 14th will be honored at the points when you booked. Even after Sept 14th if you PAY for the reservation with points at the time of booking later point price changes won’t affect you.

VL
VL

Another devaluation… worse than expected. 5th night free – now you actually need to have enough points for all 5 nights i assume, and then one get refunded. Will not be able to use it if not enough points for your complete stay.

Also when rules of determination of peak non peak days are hidden – lots of room for uneven split with almost no transparency.

🙁

tom
tom

Watch out for the equal amount of peak/off-peak claim. That is across the network, not at individual property level. So Hawaiian resorts may be permanently peak, while some FI in flyover land is permanently off-peak.
VFTW had a good post this morning flagging this and other things about the new changes that are not what they first seem

George
George

Yup, seems to me like it’s an equal amount of room-nights across the network. And it seems that unsold rooms available as off-peak up to the night in question still count (they do say “availability”), even though a few being booked 1 month ahead of time would have bumped the rest up to standard or off-peak. An ever-shadier company now playing games with semantics. And it’s not like anyone is auditing them to see if they’re lying.

Staradmiral
Staradmiral

“Existing reservations won’t automatically reprice, meaning you’ll need to cancel and rebook if a property changes in price for your specific dates.” Prepare to be Bonvoyed. I only got my marriott card for the sign up bonus. A stay at a Marriott isn’t worth $95 dollars to me, when you can just book a hotel on hotels dot com, using a discounted gift card and get another 10% off.

TrojanFan
TrojanFan

I’m finally using up my 200,000 Marriott points (mostly earned through SPG) in the next week, and I’m thrilled that with my account soon to be empty, I can kiss Marriott and Bonvoy goodbye. It’s unbelievable to me how they took a program (SPG) that I use to put all my non-bonus spend on, and trashed it within a few year’s time. #Bonvoyed for the last time.

Teleconference and SAVE
Teleconference and SAVE

This is getting ridiculous. People are going to start teleconferencing instead of hotels

Chucks
Chucks

Every extra step and effort you need to invest to redeem is one more push to locking you in to Marriott. “Oh gosh oh well it IS a bit more I guess I’ll still book.” “Oh look I don’t have enough points, gosh I’ll pay cash then”

RobbTPC
RobbTPC

I was wondering when this was going to come around. I still have 4 Marriott Cards so I’ll see how these annual free nights play out with this fun ‘change’.

AJ777
AJ777

The free night certificates CANNOT be supplemented with points per Marriott customer service. So across the board the 50K and 35K certificates just became totally unusable at a lot of good properties..or most of them!!

The Bonvoy Brilliant card for 2nd year value has become a far less appealing proposition at $450 per year. The Boundless card at $125 a year may be okay for now though…

Frogger
Frogger

I has 5 but cancelled 2. Wantes to get other Amex cards as you can only have plus cancelled Chase Biz as you can get free night without paying annual feem

Mark
Mark

Marriott is trying to ass-bang their members any way they can! Did they hire a former AA or UA exec?

Francisco
Francisco

I just did a quick search of my yearly trip. Mixture of regular 35k points and 40k points for the entire month depending on the day and ZERO 30k point nights. Sounds like a bunch of BS to me. We will see.

Roger
Roger

Not a fan of Bonvoy by a long shot, but this change just saved me 10,000 points with my upcoming reservation (cat 6 property), which is pretty neat.
I am also surprised that the CSR was able to adjust the reservation directly (so the confirmation number stays the same and all that), without needing me to cancel my current reservation and re-book.

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