Negative American Airlines Changes Incoming

Update: These changes are imminent and expected either 10/26 or 10/27.

According to AA insider @xJonNYC we should expect some negative changes to the American Airlines program in less than three weeks.

It’s currently unclear what exactly these changes will be but they won’t be good. In addition according to VFTW AA will simplify earning elite status and move towards a more revenue based system.

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Mark
Mark (@guest_1273278)
October 27, 2021 06:46

Looks like it hit, flights show as requiring nearly 2x as many points now for me.

Mark
Mark (@guest_1273285)
October 27, 2021 07:15

lilurbanachiever
lilurbanachiever (@guest_1273309)
October 27, 2021 08:16

Nope, same as before for me – the pricing is already somewhat dynamic and the dates are limited but on the available dates I am seeing the same pricing as before.

sdsearch
sdsearch (@guest_1273389)
October 27, 2021 10:09

No. It depends on the flight dates. And relative to a few years ago, it simply shows more miles needed for many flight dates, whereas a few years ago it would show no availability for awards at all on those flight dates.

So that’s the only choice: Do you want to see “no awards available”, or do you want to see higher redemption costs? There’s no way they’re going to make low redemption costs available to every destination on every day of the year, because then nobody ever would buy flights, and everybody would always only redeem miles, and the airline would go broke and out of business.

Brian
Brian (@guest_1272988)
October 26, 2021 15:38

I can be onboard with the death of EQD.

Cj
Cj (@guest_1272979)
October 26, 2021 15:20

I’ll be curious to see if miles earning from Bask Banking will count towards the new loyalty points. If so then $30,000 in the bank for 12 months will yield Gold Status without any spending. Sadly Gold doesn’t offer anything that I couldn’t just get from the CITI AAdvantage cards. Seems like platinum is first real tier of useable loyalty status.

lilurbanachiever
lilurbanachiever (@guest_1273202)
October 26, 2021 23:18
  Cj

Exactly, AA Gold is basically an insult.

Ken
Ken (@guest_1273394)
October 27, 2021 10:13
  Cj

Bask Bank confirmed their AA miles are not counted as loyalty points

lilurbanachiever
lilurbanachiever (@guest_1272977)
October 26, 2021 15:13

At least some good news. Although I did book some flights last night, actually found some good routes.

Trippy
Trippy (@guest_1272968)
October 26, 2021 15:04

So no expected change in redemption?

sdsearch
sdsearch (@guest_1273196)
October 26, 2021 22:55

No. Only stuff about elite status and elite benefits is changing this year.

Richard K.
Richard K. (@guest_1272949)
October 26, 2021 14:46

Just got the message – status is now based on “Loyalty Points” but few details (other than it is based on 1:1 with miles, as well as fare and cabin, credit card spend, and partner activity, all of that is buried in the fine print). No details on how many points are needed for elite status. Qualification year changing to March – February, with status valid through March of following year.

Richard K.
Richard K. (@guest_1272952)
October 26, 2021 14:49

Found the new goalposts:
Gold at 30,000
Platinum at 75,000
Platinum Pro at 125,000
Executive Platinum at 200,000

Nothing yet on redemption changes

Vy
Vy (@guest_1272913)
October 26, 2021 14:00

I love reading about rumors of impending doom.

Lightspeed
Lightspeed (@guest_1272910)
October 26, 2021 13:53

Summary of changes to elite status can be found at https://aadvantagestatus.com/

TL;DR:
-EQDs/EQMs/EQSes are gone and replaced with “Loyalty Points”
-Loyalty Points are one large bucket that you earn with flights (including Basic Economy) AND AA credit card purchases AND the partner programs like SimplyMiles, AA Dining, etc. Presumably this includes American Airlines Shopping as well, though it is not specifically mentioned.

This is probably a net positive for people at mid-country hubs like Chicago and Dallas who mostly fly short-haul domestic and a net negative for international travelers.

lefty
lefty (@guest_1272909)
October 26, 2021 13:49

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WR2
WR2 (@guest_1272903)
October 26, 2021 13:39

AA needs to partner with Marriott so I can wash my hands of both of them.