Recap: Theft Rings Using All In One Cards, Experimenting With Citi AT&T & More

 

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Information Booth
Information Booth (@guest_704769)
January 11, 2019 21:28

Thanks for the Fuze post… I actually considered buying one!! Whew… could have been quite the disaster for me. I’ve already been through a natural one… don’t need a man-made one!!! John 3:16

Francisco J Rios
Francisco J Rios (@guest_704578)
January 11, 2019 15:38

So would you still earn your card rewards by using it through the Fuze Card?

Jags
Jags (@guest_704562)
January 11, 2019 15:16

Am I the only one who thought all those Fuze/Coin cards were for thieves? I mean the only reason I ever even bothered to get a coin card myself was to put VGC on and avoid the “no gift card” money order nonsense. Didn’t even work for that.

Kalifa
Kalifa (@guest_704516)
January 11, 2019 13:59

Sorry the Sears/Amazon story is bogus, I work for AMZN……..just 1 location someone looked. Boy everyone ran with this story w/o fact checking, this is what is wrong today in the electronic information era.

William F
William F (@guest_704414)
January 11, 2019 10:59

Does anyone use the Fuze card? I’m looking to just carry 1 credit card and 1 debit card in my phone card holding case.

Ann
Ann (@guest_704463)
January 11, 2019 12:16

Another comment points out that the downside of the Fuze card is it can’t be used for EMV chip payments – it has the physical chip, but can’t make it output the right codes for the different cards it holds. As long as that isn’t a problem, it seems like a cool technology.

Glenn
Glenn (@guest_704543)
January 11, 2019 14:37

Also there were issues with the initial rollout that allowed anyone with physical access to the card (think waiter) to rip all the CC info from the card via bluetooth by pretending to be the Fuze app basically. I think they might have fixed this by now though.

Craig at Middle Age Miles
Craig at Middle Age Miles (@guest_704393)
January 11, 2019 10:31

Good morning, Doc. Many thanks for including our article in your Recap today! We really appreciate the link, and we also very much appreciate the compliment. I hope you and your readers are able to benefit from it. ~Craig at Middle Age Miles

Dylan
Dylan (@guest_704342)
January 11, 2019 08:47

Card thieves are the worst people in the world because they are the ones that make MSing harder for the honest people like us.

Finally, fuze could prevent all of this by requiring the user to input a zip code for the card they are trying to use and that the zip code much match the one registered on your fuze account, which can only be changed once every 90 days.

Doing this would completely kill the card for thieves but if you wanted to use such a card for MSing it would still work.

Pablo
Pablo (@guest_704344)
January 11, 2019 08:57

“make MSing harder for the honest people like us”…haha, I had a good laugh. I don’t think MSing makes you honest. It’s not illegal and I have no problem with it but come on, enjoy it while you can 🙂

Dylan
Dylan (@guest_704442)
January 11, 2019 11:40

MSing is honest because we are not stealing anything. We are taking advantage of a loophole that allows us to spend money without spending money for airline miles, which is perfectly legal.

I think of MSing like the equivelant of a business using very complex strategies to move their cash to offshore bank accounts. Doing so is often perfectly legal and well within the tax code but frowned upon for obvoius reasons, just like MSing.

Peter
Peter (@guest_704538)
January 11, 2019 14:30

A thief can be honest too if he don’t pretend to be the owner of the card! He just takes advantage of other people’s money to spend money without spending his own money for stuff other than airline miles. :p

Sorry couldn’t resist. I’m a fellow MSer also grieving its demise.

Frank
Frank (@guest_704818)
January 12, 2019 01:11

I think its a little different as usually the T&C of the card agreement say you aren’t allowed to do it but they don’t really stop you. But in reality businesses do sketchy questionable sh!t too, they just don’t get called out as much.

Elmer
Elmer (@guest_704384)
January 11, 2019 10:14

Unfortunately, once the new card has a reputation for criminals using it, it will likely just be banned by big retailers altogether. They’d rather just eliminate the problem altogether.

Hunt
Hunt (@guest_704430)
January 11, 2019 11:29

An easy solution would be to only allow EMV or contactless payments. Fuze has the hardware for both but is not integrated with the issuers to allow it.

Glenn
Glenn (@guest_704542)
January 11, 2019 14:36

You can’t currently buy the EMV version of Fuze, only the magnetic strip version. Perhaps early backers have access? Dunno.