Recap: Tio Dead, Losing Your Dream Job & More

 

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Zhang
Zhang (@guest_574191)
March 26, 2018 17:36

I can easily find a post about many Chinese companies got banned to do business in the US like Best Buy “ceased ordering” Huawei. So many Chinese will lose their jobs too, should we blame US government not happy about it? It just one guy lost his job because he is lack of basic understanding of national sovereignty. People get fired everyday worldwide, and yes, he might was one of those scapegoats, so what? Welcome to capitalist. This is a great opportunity to teach people to be responsible for your own job instead of whining.

CM
CM (@guest_574222)
March 26, 2018 18:25

You overestimate what it actually means to “like” a tweet. It’s just a button that doesn’t really mean anything. The most common way it actually get used in practice on Twitter is simply to acknowledge that you’ve seen the Tweet, that’s all.

Of course, seeing the actual content of the tweet, or the originator, it is quite a stupid idea to click “like”, but what exactly do you expect of someone who only gets paid 14 bucks an hour at his dream job to do?! Perhaps jobs with global reach shouldn’t really be outsourced to someone in Nebraska for 14 USD/hour?! Ultimately, it’s the executives that are truly at fault here, and how many of them got sacked over this?!

(BTW, it sounds like Marriott uses a third-party client for all of this, so, it’s not even clear what sort of an interface he had to deal with, and whether clicking “like” can or cannot be done by mistake through said interface.)

windywinter
windywinter (@guest_574300)
March 26, 2018 20:51
  CM

He got paid 14 bucks an hour – that means he has to carefully work for Marriot every minute of that hour. When he made the mistake, due to lack of training or whatever reason, Marriot lost millions of dollars. Marriot isn’t suing the guy for the millions of dollars, just want to replace him with someone with basic understanding of national sovereignty or can be more careful.

Outlook
Outlook (@guest_574419)
March 27, 2018 02:10

Huawei got banned to do business in the US?

Explain this: https://consumer.huawei.com/us/phones/mate10-pro/

Umich2011
Umich2011 (@guest_574109)
March 26, 2018 15:31

Marriott should have blamed some nameless interface design team, like Hawaii did after the missile alert oopsie. Instead Marriott fires some poor dude making $14/hour because China demands someone’s head.

windywinter
windywinter (@guest_574303)
March 26, 2018 20:57

China didn’t demand anybody’s head, and China doesn’t care which Marriott employee “liked” that damn tweet. In fact, the guy was never mentioned in any communications between Marriott and the Chinese government.

86
86 (@guest_574426)
March 27, 2018 03:43

“China forced Marriott to suspend all online booking for a week at its nearly 300 Chinese hotels. A Chinese leader also demanded the company publicly apologize and “seriously deal with the people responsible,” the Journal reported.

And boy, did Marriott ever apologize.”

Outlook
Outlook (@guest_574417)
March 27, 2018 02:00

The missile alert opposite was a big deal. Pretty sure that employee was fired… http://thehill.com/homenews/news/371460-emergency-management-head-resigns-worker-fired-after-hawaii-false-missile-alert

Outlook
Outlook (@guest_574420)
March 27, 2018 02:16

*oopsie

Jason
Jason (@guest_574091)
March 26, 2018 14:46

Agree with G. Political stuff should be left with political blog. This guy is a scapegoat for Marriott’s own mistakes. Without appropriate training, a customer service agent could have also liked a pro-Catalonia twitter and get the anger from Spanish gov.

Jim
Jim (@guest_574142)
March 26, 2018 16:39

The article is about a guy who lost his job, not an article about who controls Tibet.

If you want to insulate yourself from any form of conversation which happens to mention worldwide topics, the internet probably isn’t for you.

Please, take your “I want to be offended” attitude elsewhere.

Jason
Jason (@guest_574683)
March 27, 2018 18:17

are you responding to my comment?? That article clearly says that this guy lost his job because Chinese government is asking for someone to be punished for the mistake. It seems to imply that either Chinese or Marriott are the evil guys who cost him the dream job. [of course he would say that he didn’t mean to like the post at all and it is even twitter’s fault] I am just saying without training on Marriott, one day other countries can be provoked by some ignorant clerk who make 14 bucks in the USA who end up crying in front of a newspaper that it is his dream job that he lost.

US is lucky not to have separationist movements. But the kind of movement is common in the world. So a lot of people WILL be offended by inappropriate behaviors. Liking a free tibet tweet in the eyes of Chinese is a similar mistake as making racial discrimination comments in the US, just to educate you.

Zombies
Zombies (@guest_574083)
March 26, 2018 14:31

But to be fair, Marriott intentionally provoked China and deserves the consequence. It’s one thing to list Hong Kong or Macau or Taiwan as a separate country (region) for logistical reasons since they do have different passports. But no countries or governments in the world would accept or even recognize documents issued by the Tibetan exile government in India. Marriott is a business entity. There’s consequence you have to eat up if you provoked your biggest customer.

Negourmand
Negourmand (@guest_574131)
March 26, 2018 16:09

Did you read the article? The survey listing it as separate was prepared by 3rd party, not Marriott.

windywinter
windywinter (@guest_574305)
March 26, 2018 21:01

Yet Marriott sent it out.

Outlook
Outlook (@guest_574415)
March 27, 2018 01:49

Zombies said “intentionally”. Negourmand pointed out that’s not the case.

Justin
Justin (@guest_574068)
March 26, 2018 13:54

Jesus that Marriott China article was brutal. So many wtf’s

St
St (@guest_574057)
March 26, 2018 13:27

You’d also think that Marriott would set up a system whereby banned words or phrases ask for confirmation/manager approval when it comes to liking tweets.

– or just set up a Great Firewall of Marriott and block twitter entirely on their network like the Chinese government does.

Jim
Jim (@guest_574140)
March 26, 2018 16:37
  St

Did you read the article? Marriott doesn’t even know how to block Twitter bots

Outlook
Outlook (@guest_574414)
March 27, 2018 01:43

Apparently he didn’t. He doesn’t even know Roy Jones’ job. He thinks the Omaha man was having fun on social media while he should be working.

G
G (@guest_574045)
March 26, 2018 13:12

Not a good idea to Recap a political issue on this site, I am afraid. Leave politics of another country to people in that country.

El Ingeniero
El Ingeniero (@guest_574105)
March 26, 2018 15:24
  G

That’s not about the politics of another country. That story’s about some poor schmo who got sacked for almost nothing.

Kevin
Kevin (@guest_574115)
March 26, 2018 15:57
  G

Why are you afraid?

Luke
Luke (@guest_574141)
March 26, 2018 16:39
  G

I agree! I have an issue with political issues!

Luke
Luke (@guest_574298)
March 26, 2018 20:46

Keep fighting the good fight, Will! This is a travel blog and you linked to an article related to travel. There is nothing wrong with that.

G
G (@guest_574333)
March 26, 2018 22:16

I totally agree with your comment, but the background story between Marriot and the Chinese government (and some wording in the original article) can easily drive people’s attention to the political issue, as some other comments below…

John
John (@guest_574467)
March 27, 2018 10:12
  G

But why are you afraid? Could you sleep last night? I hope fear doesn’t consume you.

windywinter
windywinter (@guest_574309)
March 26, 2018 21:09
  G

This isn’t politics of just another country. The State Department has a fund to support these organizations like “Friends of Tibet”, but the Department of Education doesn’t have anything to support educations on world politics to the American people. This is exactly how this happened, the guy doesn’t have any idea that his careless could provoke 1 billions people on earth and get his employer into trouble.