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Anthony Paganini
Anthony Paganini (@guest_2124418)
August 20, 2025 13:37

 Chuck , you may want to call attention to this post as some folks using this for DD will likely hold off on bank bonuses when they learn the issues setting up Treasury Direct.

Eric 🔗
Eric 🔗 (@guest_2123156)
August 19, 2025 09:43

I have an update to #2099068 . I haven’t logged into my BMO account for a long time but logged in today to see if the DD from TrD arrived as scheduled. It did but that’s not why I am writing this comment.

I noticed something very interesting. There were 5 “PRENOTE ACCOUNT VERFICATION – DDA CREDIT” entries on the same day in July in my BMO ledger. This just happened to be the same day that I received an automated email from TrD letting me know that my docs had been scanned into the system.

There was 1 “PRENOTE ACCOUNT VERFICATION – DDA DEBIT” entry 4 days later in the ledger. My BMO account was added to TrD 1 day before this prenote debit occurred, which is also interesting.

I’m wondering if this is what they do when they receive Form 5512 to verify accounts rather than someone calling the other FI like the rep told me happens.

The only other FI that I’ve noticed display these prenotes is BluPeak.

BTW, I received an automated email from TrD notifying me that my 2nd Form 5512 was scanned over a week ago but that account still has not been added to TrD. There is also no prenotes in the transaction history for that FI.

That could mean that TrD is behind like I speculated to An a couple of days ago. It could mean that they sent the prenotes but that FI doesn’t show it like BMO and BluPeak do. It could mean that something went wrong with my docs. Or it could mean something else entirely!

Jack
Jack (@guest_2123138)
August 19, 2025 09:15

I think the title of this post needs to be updated. Not too easy nowadays. Has anyone had luck connecting anything lately? I think we can rule out this being an issue with specific institutions.

sybloc
sybloc (@guest_2119023)
August 13, 2025 23:48

Using Treasury Direct feel like stepping back into 1997.

Gadget 🕵️‍♂️ Bank Bonus Geek 🔗
August 13, 2025 22:00

For those that had to submit Form 5444 to unlock the Treasury Direct account, how long did it take to get unlocked? PaulinTexas favo🔗

And, did you get notice of the unlocking? Or, just periodically try to log in?

I have no faith in them, since they didn’t bother to tell me it was locked and instead sent me an email about Form 5512 to add a new account.

Faxed my form 5444 today. Fax number: (612) 629-4285

An
An (@guest_2118956)
August 13, 2025 22:04

Gadget 🕵️‍♂️ Bank Bonus Geek 🔗 What do you think triggered the lock?

Gadget 🕵️‍♂️ Bank Bonus Geek 🔗
August 13, 2025 22:21
  An

Trying to add/link different accounts, Veridian, Netspend, TBK, etc.

Got an email:
“We are having difficulty verifying the bank information you provided.” Mentions Form 5512.

As shown on screen, or in the FAQ, I emailed Treasury Direct:

“Please delete the Pathward linked account requiring L01 verification. Thank you.”

Next day, they email me:

“Per your request, we removed the Pathward bank on 8/12/2025. 
You should receive a confirmation email regarding the update.”

And, then discovered I was no longer able to log in.

James
James (@guest_2119250)
August 14, 2025 11:38

My form 5444 lock late last year took a total of 92 days.

Karl
Karl (@guest_2119809)
August 14, 2025 22:35

This is scary. I got the “on hold” message for T-B-K and decided to abandon it instead of dealing with Form 5512,. Now I wonder if it’s a ticking time bomb.

Were you making multiple attempts with the others too, or just with Pathward?

I wonder whether limiting attempts to just once per FI would be safer, or whether to just lay low for awhile.

I’ve had 0% success in the past month vs 100% success on linking ~50 accounts over the previous 2 years. Not sure it’s even worth trying anymore anyway.

An
An (@guest_2119817)
August 14, 2025 22:53
Karl
Karl (@guest_2119889)
August 15, 2025 01:00
  An

I tried that too after I saw your comments, but I think I’m going to stop poking the bear.

I also tried twice in the same session with the first few FIs. Recently I’ve only been trying once per FI per session.

The only one that got locked, shows “L1”, and appears on the list was weird. That was T-B-K. I’m 99.9% positive I only tried it twice.

But I had just tried AZ Financial once. It failed. Then, instead of retrying, I tried T-B-K twice. It got locked on the 2nd try. It looks like 1 AZF + 2 T-B-K locked T-B-K. I did not select “add another bank” between the 2 FIs. Maybe I should have.

I was able to try AZ Financial again a few days later (still unable to connect, but not locked out). So it seems (1+2) tries locked the 2nd bank but not the first.

There’s still a minuscule chance I zoned out and submitted T-B-K a 3rd time by mistake. I don’t think so but I’m not going to try replicating it.

An
An (@guest_2119890)
August 15, 2025 01:06

I’m almost certain it just puts the hold on whatever you enter on the 3rd failed attempt since it’s unlikely that it distinguishes if you’re attempting to add a different bank or correcting typos for the same bank.

Karl
Karl (@guest_2119921)
August 15, 2025 02:11
  An

Occam’s razor says you’re right. The chances of that many typos just happening to spell the name of a different bank with plausible routing and account numbers are vanishingly small. It would not happen within the age of the universe.

But common sense is inapplicable to algorithms and seldom occurs to coders.

Gadget 🕵️‍♂️ Bank Bonus Geek 🔗
August 14, 2025 22:54

I think Pathward was the only one I tried multiple times in the same session, because it was hard to tell if anything happens when you hit submit. It was the only one that shows “L1” and stuck on the list.

But, I am pretty sure I had tried others a single time in the same session, on other days.

And, yes, I agree… I had changed accounts in the past numerous times and never had any issues.

Jack
Jack (@guest_2123139)
August 19, 2025 09:16

That’s some BS about the lock. Were you rapidly adding accounts?

Gadget 🕵️‍♂️ Bank Bonus Geek 🔗
August 19, 2025 12:35

I probably hit the “submit” button more than once on the 2nd account I was trying to add, because once you get the first error message, it was impossible to tell it was actually submitted.

JK
JK (@guest_2118991)
August 13, 2025 22:42

I appreciate you responding about the chex dispute on the other thread, so I’m returning the favor here.

If you get a hard lock, you will get notified via email to send in form 5444.

It took 3 full months to remove the hard lock, YMMV.

Gadget 🕵️‍♂️ Bank Bonus Geek 🔗
August 13, 2025 22:53
  JK

I called, and was informed to send Form 5444. Nothing in my email about it.

But, sounds like typical govt. red tape otherwise.

favo🔗
favo🔗 (@guest_2119014)
August 13, 2025 23:33

Gadget - Bank Bonus Geek 🔗 I don’t recall exactly when I sent Form 5444, but I got an email on May 20 confirming receipt (I had included my email on the form). On June 3, they emailed saying it had an “error” and couldn’t be processed (it was actually correct). The email gave their phone number (844-284-2676), so I called, and the agent unlocked my account over the phone—no need to resend. Makes me wonder if the form was even necessary.

PaulinTexas
PaulinTexas (@guest_2119172)
August 14, 2025 09:40

Gadget - Bank Bonus Geek 🔗 Sorry, I’ve never had my account locked (yet) so, I’m no help on submitting Form 5444. I hope you get unlocked quickly.

Gadget 🕵️‍♂️ Bank Bonus Geek 🔗
August 14, 2025 09:48

Based on some internet sleuthing and a DP from favo🔗, they will send out an email confirming receipt of the form, and a timeframe to expect unlocking. Then, about a two-week wait, and might have to call to follow-up. Of course, YMMV.

Until they fix the account linking issues, it’s pretty much dead to me anyway. Any T-bills I had were set to go back into the account they were funded from, and I have a $0 C of I balance.

If times get real tough, I will start linking via Form 5512, as a notary is really easy for me (unlike the days of medallion reqs).

favo🔗
favo🔗 (@guest_2119284)
August 14, 2025 12:24

FYI, here is the confirmation email from Treasury Direct, it indicated the expected processing time for various cases:

Dear Customer,
This is a system generated email to communicate we received your Savings
Bonds/Treasury Marketable Securities materials.
Cases are worked in the order they are received in our office. Your request is important to us and will receive attention as soon as possible. Please be aware of our estimated processing times to process your case which are based on the case type:

  • Cases requesting to cash Series EE and/or Series I paper savings bonds held in your name, at least 4 weeks.
  • Cases requesting to cash Series HH savings bonds held in your name, at least 3 months.
  • Unlocking your TreasuryDirect account, updating bank information in that account, or converting your paper savings bonds into electronic bonds in TreasuryDirect, at least 4 weeks.
  • Claims for missing, lost, or stolen bonds, at least 6 months.
  • All other cases, at least 20 weeks.

If we require additional information to process your case, we will contact you. Thank you for your patience.
Please retain the Customer Number and Case Number referenced above to streamline any future actions associated with this request. Also note, you may receive multiple email notifications and Case Numbers depending on the type of transaction(s) you have requested.
If you have additional questions, please use the Contact Us link on TreasuryDirect.gov.

yangzi
yangzi (@guest_2118809)
August 13, 2025 18:50

I am new to Treasury Direct. I opened TD account about 10 days ago and transferred $1 from my 53 bank into C of I as a test after connecting 53 bank account. The $1 is now “available to redeem”, so I think 53 bank could connect to TD account fine.

I am going to buy 4-week T-bills to meet $4000 DD requirement for BMO bank bonus.

What should I do if I can’t connect new bank (BMO bank) and they tell me I need to mail in the form with notary from the bank but I don’t have the new bank locally, like online base bank? I do have BMO bank branches near me but for future reference, I would like to know what I need to do.

Also, I only have $2000 to be able to use towards BMO $4000 DD requirement (within 90 days). I was going to buy $2000 4-week T-bill and repeat the process using the same funds. (I understand it takes about 5 weeks to settle the 4-week T-bill to be available to be withdrawn to my bank.) Now, I am wondering if it’s better to buy four $500 T-bills, either on same day or every day for next 4 days.

Which method is better and why?

An
An (@guest_2118838)
August 13, 2025 19:37

See #2114715

Not really sure about 2k vs 500, but some institutions might flag multiple identical transactions. I don’t think it really matters, but I would just do 2k.

The money is only gone for 28 days (or fewer for banks with early pay/deposit). You just need to put the order in by Thursday morning (auction day) to get next week’s issue.

yangzi
yangzi (@guest_2118896)
August 13, 2025 20:54
  An

So, if I order 4-week T-bill tonight (Wed night), the T-bill will be in my account next Thursday starting 4-week period?

I don’t know if any of my local banks would notarize for other (online) banks.

An
An (@guest_2118924)
August 13, 2025 21:26

Generally, you can order weeks ahead up until 11am ET on the auction date. 4-week T-Bills are auctioned on Thursdays and issued the following Tuesday, which is when your bank is debited. The proceeds are deposited to the destination bank on the maturity date (~28 days later).

yangzi
yangzi (@guest_2118932)
August 13, 2025 21:40
  An

Thank you. I am guessing I can set up 2nd bank (BMO) to withdraw the T-bill later when it’s ready to be redeemed? I haven’t opened BMO account yet.

I am going to try to buy $2000 4-week T-bill now.

An
An (@guest_2118936)
August 13, 2025 21:42

Changes cannot be made in the 4 business days prior to the maturity date, so you have until Tuesday night the week before to change the payment destination. You could possibly redeem the T-Bill to C of I, then redeem that at your leisure, but I don’t know if anyone’s had any issues doing that (I doubt it’s an issue).

yangzi
yangzi (@guest_2118949)
August 13, 2025 21:55
  An

I just bought $2000 4-week T-bill and chose to be redeemed to C of I when it matures.

My fingers are crossed that I can open BMO account fine. I read people were having some issues opening BMO accounts.

THANK YOU SO MUCH for your help! I appreciate that.

An
An (@guest_2118955)
August 13, 2025 22:01

I’m not sure what happens if TD locks your account, so as a precaution, it might be better to set the payment destination to a bank account instead until BMO is all set up… assuming it will still pay to the bank upon maturity when locked.

yangzi
yangzi (@guest_2118974)
August 13, 2025 22:28
  An

Will do!

Karl
Karl (@guest_2119008)
August 13, 2025 23:11

I agree with An. Setting C of I as your destination might give Murphy a way in.

I would set a bank account as the destination in case the T-bill goes unused. Preferably one with early DD and a high APY.

You can’t change the destination between the auction date and the issue date.

Before the auction date, the workaround is to cancel it and reorder with a different destination.

After it’s issued you’ve got a 3-week window to change the destination for a 4-week bill.

yangzi
yangzi (@guest_2119871)
August 15, 2025 00:24

So, it’s too late for me to set a bank as how 4-week T-bill should be redeemed after matured since I bought it last night (Wed) and it’s already Friday morning? But, I can change from C of I as redemption method to a bank after T-bill matured as long as it’s within 3 weeks? Is that correct?

An
An (@guest_2119874)
August 15, 2025 00:30

You can change it once it’s issued on Tuesday 8/19 up until a week before it matures, hence the 3-week window.

person
person (@guest_2118491)
August 13, 2025 14:02

The last successful new account I’ve added was in mid-july (onepay). keypoint, arizona financial, and netspend all failed verification. I couldn’t even re-add one that was previously linked (legacy bank & trust).

CR
CR (@guest_2118431)
August 13, 2025 13:14

Unable to add CIT.

Jack
Jack (@guest_2118246)
August 13, 2025 09:48

Couldn’t add T-B-K: The bank information you are attempting to add is unable to be verified. Please review the information that you entered and try again.

T
T (@guest_2118349)
August 13, 2025 11:50

What is T-B-K?

Gadget 🕵️‍♂️ Bank Bonus Geek 🔗
August 13, 2025 13:54
  T

T.B.K. Bank…. remove the dots. T

PeekyBee
PeekyBee (@guest_2118200)
August 13, 2025 08:52

While on the Treasury Direct website there was a pop up survey. I said poor. Apparently most still approve of their services giving a 94% excellent to good rating. https://imgur.com/a/ycREJFu

Gadget 🕵️‍♂️ Bank Bonus Geek 🔗
August 13, 2025 12:08

Yeah, I’d say the majority of people aren’t linking accounts at the same frequency that they change their underwear, so most wouldn’t know it’s an issue. But I also put “Poor” when on there last night, and saw the same approval ratings. PeekyBee

Karl
Karl (@guest_2118799)
August 13, 2025 18:40

I used to respond “excellent” every time because I loved their DD service.

Over the past 30 days I’ve answered “poor” every time because I haven’t been able to link a single bank. Yet the survey responses are still overwhelmingly “excellent.”

The results shown are for the past 30 days“, and “include your rating.”

I wonder which astroturfing service they use. Maybe they farm it out to the same consultants as all those Amazon sellers.