Posted by sirtheta on March 25, 2017
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Published on March 25th, 2017 | by sirtheta

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100,000 Hilton Honors Surpass Upgrade Link, No Once in a Lifetime Language

Update: reader iahphx may be seeing once-in-a-lifetime language using this link. As mentioned in the post, please be sure to check the terms when upgrading. I’ll update the post or remove this warning as appropriate once more DPs roll in.

Update: readers have reported not seeing this language, so I’m crossing the above out for now. Still – check your offer terms carefully! They’re very short.

The first upgrade offer people were seeing after the recent change to the signup bonuses American Express’s Hilton cards contained once in a lifetime language in their terms (“Welcome bonus offer not available to applicants who have or have had this product”), such as this once-in-a-lifetime link.

I’m very happy to report we’ve found an upgrade offer without that language, thanks to reader Joe-SC1 and confirmation from reddit user SJ0Always be sure to check the terms when upgrading, in case things change.

Direct link to offer.

The bonus is (oddly) not displayed directly on the page. You can click on “REVIEW CARD BENEFITS”, then “Benefit Terms”, and then scroll up slightly to see the terms, without logging in (or just go directly there). There is no mention of “Welcome bonus offer not available to applicants who have or have had this product” & the offer terms state:

You can earn 100,000 Hilton Honors Bonus Points after you spend $3,000 on purchases on your Card in your first 3 months of Card Membership starting from the date your account is approved.

You will need to log in to see if you are targeted for this upgrade offer–not everyone will be! (Alas, I am not.)

You can read more about American Express upgrade offers by consulting this article.

Questions, comments, and anything else can be dropped in the comments below!

FAQ

Q: Can you get the upgrade bonus if you currently have a Hilton Honors & a Hilton Honors Surpass card? —TomT

A: I haven’t heard any DPs to the contrary, so my answer would be yes because the offer terms do not include “Welcome bonus offer not available to applicants who have or have had this product”. There is no hard pull from upgrading, so there’s not much to lose in any case.

Q: If you currently have a Hilton Honors card, but have never had a Hilton Honors Surpass card and apply for a new Hilton Honors Surpass card, can you get the upgrade bonus on your Hilton Honors card? —Joe-SC1

A: Again, I haven’t heard any DPs to the contrary, so my answer would be yes, assuming you’ll still be targeted for the upgrade after your new Hilton Honors Surpass card is approved. Personally, I would go for the new application no matter what because the weekend free night for keeping the card in year 2 is very, very good. (Assuming you aren’t running into any new account issues or the 4–5 CC limit with American Express.) Since there’s no hard pull for the upgrade, there isn’t much to lose.

Q: Can you downgrade from the Hilton Honors Surpass to the Hilton Honors, then upgrade using this? —Jeremy

A: Unknown, due to the timeline. The problem is that you have to be targeted for the upgrade offer (for instance, I am not) and we do not know how targeting works. It’s possible that the offer is only targeted at existing cardholders as of the time when the promotion went live and will not be targeted at people after that.

In better news, there are some users who have downgraded recently who were targeted: Milo (downgraded 3–4 months ago), gary (downgraded 4–5 months ago).

Q: Does upgrading require a hard pull? —DW

A: No.

 

h/t Joe-SC1, u/SJ0



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Charlie
Charlie

The wife was targeted, I currently hold the Surpass card…..100K Hilton points….Awesome

Jeremy
Jeremy

Can one downgrade from Surpass to Regular no fee then upgrade using this?

wanderinghome
wanderinghome

I downgraded my Surpass to the regular one when this offer first came out (3/26/17) in the hopes of being able to re-upgrade. My fee-free cards arrived in the mail last week when I was traveling, I confirmed receipt just now, clicked on the link in this post and put in my existing card number and last four, and was approved almost immediately. However, I had an upgrade offer in my Amex account that DOES have the once-in-a-lifetime language btw.

TL;DR – Had my fee-free card for over a year, upgraded to surpass in jan, downgraded in late march, and reupgraded using the link in this post immediately after confirming receipt of the card.

DW
DW

Just checked and I have this available. Upgrade = no hard pull?

Anthony
Anthony

My wife and I both got the offer. Hilton points aren’t worth much after the latest stealth devaluation, but we’ll find a use for them somewhere. Definitely worth since there’s no hard pull.

Thanks, DoC!

TomT
TomT

I see the offer, but I currently still have the regular no annual fee Amex Hilton and the Surpass. Any idea if I will get the points for converting to a second Surpass? Definitely worth $75 if I will.

Charlie
Charlie

I’m in the same boat, I pulled the trigger, and don’t see a reason why… according to the terms, that we shouldn’t get the offer. For 100K and no HP it’s totally worth a shot IMHO.

Joe
Joe

how do you know if you’re targeted? I just converted to the no-fee a few weeks ago…would be great to convert back and pick up an extra 100k…having trouble ascertaining whether or not I am targeted…

Charlie
Charlie

I only have the no annual fee AMEX card. If I choose this offer, will I be able to get another bonus offer if i open the AMEX surpass in the future?

Joe-SC1
Joe-SC1

Sirtheta –

I was going to confirm your question from the previous post (yes, btw) last night, but ran out of “reply” options in the comment trail.

Glad this has worked for others!

Interest to see if any DP’s surface about someone applying for a new Surpass for the free night and then upgrading an existing no AF card via the link above, or in their AMEX Offers, for another 100k.

I rechecked my spreadsheet and will have two cards drop off 5/24 on the same day in late August (to 3/24), so I may attempt this possibility anyway as I will have one slot to give regardless. Any news on future CSR bonus point levels? Ever going back to 100k?

Cheers

Bryce Griffler
Bryce Griffler

This is what I want to know. Currently have the no-fee card, upgrade eligible, and never had the surpass. I want to apply AND upgrade my no fee card, to get 200K points. Anything that would prevent me from doing both in the same day? It would behoove me to apply first, and THEN upgrade (in that order), but other than that, it might work… Tempted to hurry and do it before the “lifetime” verbiage link goes away.

LWT3
LWT3

For any Amex cards other than the Platinum, have there been any reports of Amex not awarding bonus points if MS was used to meet the minimum spend? I’m working on the minimum spend for multiple other cards right now, so I can’t hit $3,000 for this card organically. In the past I never had a problem using MS to satisfy Amex minimum spend requirements, but after the 100,000 MR point Platinum clawbacks, I don’t know if I can do that.

iahphx
iahphx

A couple of years ago, I got the Surpass card (for the bonus) while keeping the standard Honors no-fee card (using the old no-fee card only for occasional AMEX offers). AMEX has always offered me a retention bonus for keeping the Surpass card, so I keep both open.

Clicking the link above, it says I can upgrade my no-fee Honors card to Surpass and get the 100,000 point bonus for doing so. But the terms and conditions state “Welcome bonus offer not available to applicants who have or have had this product.” So does that mean I would NOT get it, despite the offer on my account?

P
P

im targeted and got approved. I upgraded last February 2016 when my Amex Hilton made one year. Downgraded it back in April or may 2016.

Nick
Nick

I currently hold both the HHonors fee-free Amex and the Surpass, logged in through the link above and was able to upgrade the HHonors card to a Surpass. I looked over the T&C with a fine tooth comb and didn’t see language indicating I wouldn’t be eligible for the 100K bonus. I saved a PDF of the T&C just in case though. Thanks for the post sirtheta!

de
de

I’m not technologically savvy. Any chance, we could get a .pdf of the t&c’s to save in order to hopefully ward off any issues (you know, voodoo). TIA!

David
David

Awesome! Targeted & upgraded w/a quick approval. This is exactly what I’ve been hoping for! Saved a copy of the terms in case there’s problems.

Jan
Jan

I have the no fee card for many years and eligible for this offer, never have the surpass card. My questions are: 1) Have the $75 been waived for the new application? 2) Do you get at second year a weekend free night when you pay the fee again? I didn’t see this benefit stated. Is it only for new application? Or for upgrade as well? 3) This upgrade is not consider a new card (as in Chase’ term 5/24), right? Thank you!

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