Posted by William Charles on October 15, 2019
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Published on October 15th, 2019 | by William Charles

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United To Make Changes To 2020 Premier Qualification (Spend Based)

United has announced major changes to how elite status will be earned for the 2020 year. Previously you could earn elite status with either Premier Qualifying Miles (PQM) or Premier qualifying segments (PQS) and Premier qualifying dollars (PQD). Under the new structure you’ll need a combination of Premier qualifying points (PQP) and premier qualifying flights (or a higher threshold of just premier qualifying points).

You’ll earn 1 PQP for every $1 spent (base fare only). Each take off and landing will be equal to one PQF, regardless of fare class (although basic economy fares will be excluded). The elite status requirements are as follows:

  • Premier Silver: 12 PQF and 4,000 PQP or 5,000 PQP
  • Premier Gold: 24 PQF and 8,000 PQP or 10,000 PQP
  • Premier Platinum: 36 PQF and 12,000 PQP or 15,000 PQP
  • Premier 1K: 54 PQF and 18,000 PQP or 24,000 PQP

Personally I gave up caring about elite status a long time ago, the benefits elites receive has deteriorated over time and the requirements has increased.

 

 



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Kai
Kai

United Airlines–where miles flown won’t matter at all

Chucks
Chucks

To be fair, I understand United’s reasoning. The customer that drops $24k+ on 2-4 unrestricted international F fares is generating fatter profits than the person flying 200k miles in coach- why shouldn’t the F class get as good or better treatment?

If you actually thought airline “loyalty” programs were literally about “rewarding loyalty” and not a euphemism for “throwing you a bone to get you to spend even more with us” I could see you being disappointed.

CatSama
CatSama

I only fly f or j and I don’t care the benefits from premier status as f and j class have those automatically. So these changes do not attract highly profitable customers. And since United’s biz class are so outdated and the service is so horrible, dropping a penny to UA is a waste.

Peter
Peter

Well said. And yes I am still disappointed (at a conceptual level anyway, I’ve never flown enough to qualify for any sort of status). IMO the spirit of the loyalty program was to break from the day-to-day monetary transactions and seek value in a lasting relationship. Hard to quantify but a brand benefits a ton from random Joe’s in every neighborhood telling friends that he’s stuck with United exclusively for the past 12 years. Maybe one of the friends would be convinced to drop money on unrestricted international F as a result.

The shift that we’re seeing comes from the strict capitalistic mindset that chases short-term profits. Makes sense within its own context, but like the making of public policies and running of corporations, it ought to be proven short-sighted at some point.

Debit
Debit

China is beating the crap out of the US using the capitalist mindset to play companies against each other. The companies can’t give away their technology fast enough only because their competitors ate doing the same only because they want access to china and the CEOS won’t be around when the shit hits the fan. If you rely on the invisible hand theory pretty soon Americans will be cleaning Chinese toilets. Only a super capitalist entity like the federal government that can take a long term view will see the rat race the companies are engaged in. Which is also why there shouldn’t be close ties between the government and the industry so there are no conflicts of interest. Talking to a capitalist is like arguing with a jihadist. They can’t look beyond their nose at the big picture. They are incentivized not to.

JW
JW

That’s a comparison of extremes. Where’s the actual money? The long-haul business fliers who are in Premium Plus or Economy Plus, or even the budget business fliers. Sadly, the first two are the ones getting shafted. For several years, I’ve done about 65k miles a year in United–India twice a year, UK once, and several domestics averaging around 4k miles round-trip. Yet, in spite of that, I’ll be squarely in the middle of silver and gold. No thanks.

Given how much profit UAL makes from the daily BOMEWR runs, and the fact that Delta is rebooting their own JFKBOM daily, this move really surprised me. I was already paying 2600 for Premium Plus on UAL, so I’ll be enjoying my last year of gold while looking at Emirates’ business… They’re between 1/2 to 1/3 the price of UAL’s Polaris, with a far better experience.

Dean
Dean

Hi, JW. I did LAX-BOM via EWR last November and I think it was about $875 return in E+ Maybe you don’t have flexibility with your dates, though. But anyway – F. United, and I hope you have a better experience on Emirates, etc.

Debit
Debit

If you were just $100 or $200 short of elite status would you go for it?

Not caring for ellie status is exactly right. The airlines, and society, and your spouse all want you on some treadmill running the rat race all the time.

Once you stop being in the race, you stop being a rat. Now back to work rats.

tribesman55
tribesman55

Well said sir.

Max
Max

Not if you have the right spouse. She should be your player 2

adam d
adam d

you get 7 international upgrades from a platinum to a 1k, yea it matters if you fly economy on international flights obviously.

Jay
Jay

I used to fly United all the time (roughly 60k miles a year) and Gold status was worth it for like two or three times a year. This year I kinda stopped caring about it after some personal issues I had with United and just started flying whatever the best times are for me. It’s so much nicer. It’s kinda sad what has been happening to elite statuses over the years…

International Churner
International Churner

I was a 1k on UA for the better part of seven years, it was helpful being next to a hub where UA operated > 50% of the flights.

Five years ago, I gave up on status, and go for the “best” option that’s some subjective mix of flight times and price. At this point, I think I can say there isn’t much of a difference between AA/UA/DL/LH/BA/IB/WN/B6/EW/AZ/FI/FR/U2/SU/QF, they all get you there at the same time, and the service is more or less the same in Y.

With a co-branded AA/UA/DL credit card, you get whatever baggage you would get from Star Gold, and jump far enough in front of the gate lice to always get place overhead.

Priority Pass is a good alternative to the run-down RCC lounges, I can’t say I miss it.

valks
valks

Between this and dynamic award pricing, what is even the point of flying united

HChris
HChris

I stoped caring too. Non AA OneWorld Emerald is still very nice on domestic trips when I can get access to AA Flagship on domestic basic economy trips, but for international trips I have started to go with whatever is the cheapest and fastest and simply use the Priority Pass options. Saves time, money and stress.

Dean
Dean

The PQD waiver for foreign addresses is now gone. That was a big deal for me. But, like others, I look forward to getting off the treadmill and flying with other carriers (once I get lifetime platinum in 2021).

chris
chris

5000 spending for silver. United has gone completely insane.

Alex
Alex

Do I understand this correctly? 1 first class flight overseas that costs $10k will grant gold status even if that is the only flight I take?

Dean
Dean

I think so!

Jags
Jags

Thrilled about the changes. As a last minute short haul flyer I regularly spend $10k a year on 40-50 segments. Silver blows. Looking forward to that group 1 boarding.

adam d
adam d

the lounge option is the best, along w your luggage coming out first. i used gold status at lounges throughout asia, ANA japan lounge has a sushi station and ramen bar

Paul
Paul

It should no longer be called MileagePlus.

Ray
Ray

RevenuePlus

Tim
Tim

FYI, they also removed the spend waivers for Chase cards, international addresses, and military.

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