CNote Review – Earn 2.5% APY (Uninsured Account)

CNote is a ‘alternative’ savings account that invests your money in small businesses and communities in America and advertises 2.5% APY. Unlike other savings accounts this is not insured at all, normally a savings account is either FDIC insured or NCUA insured.

CNote lends money exclusively to Certified Community Development Institutions (CDFIs), they discuss this in more detail here. They show that the net charge off rates are lower than FDIC insured products, keep in mind that when a FDIC insured institution fails your accounts are still covered up to $250,000. Whereas when a CDFI fails you the investor are on the hook if their ‘triple protection plan‘ fails. Part of that plan includes a loss reserve fund that CNote mantains, but no details are listed on the amount in this fund and the total amount lended through Cnote so it’s difficult to get any peace of mind from the this. Unlike a traditional account CNote’s account you cannot access your funds whenever you want. You’re instead given quarterly liquidity with a 30 day notice.

Our Verdict

Personally I don’t recommend putting funds into an uninsured account like this, especially when you’re able to get a 2% APY rate with an insured account (or up to 5% on an insured rewards account). I guess some people will be tempted due to the community angle but you’re not given any say on which projects are/aren’t funded and given that these are low risk projects anyway I suspect most of them would be funded without CNote. I guess this is kind of a bit like Kiva but for American small businesses and community projects and you get a return but you don’t get to pick your projects.

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Charles Mann
Charles Mann (@guest_594079)
May 13, 2018 20:12

RISKY!

Frank
Frank (@guest_593908)
May 12, 2018 21:57

Real scam here is that CNote pays you 2.5% interest and keeps any upside over that. Meanwhile when shit goes wrong, you don’t get money back…

Frank
Frank (@guest_593907)
May 12, 2018 21:53

If you can fund with CC then maybe it would be worth YOLOing it but fairly risky as we are in the strong part of the economic cycle.

Traveling Terry
Traveling Terry (@guest_593904)
May 12, 2018 21:45

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NinjaX
NinjaX (@guest_593900)
May 12, 2018 20:42

i like the girl. im convinced.

Ben
Ben (@guest_593947)
May 13, 2018 09:33

I don’t think she’s included

C Doc Fan
C Doc Fan (@guest_593841)
May 12, 2018 14:13

Why you should buy C-note? The “thrill” of not knowing whether you will be paid back. – Same reason people go to amusement parks, etc.

Alternatively, feel free to send your extra money to me. I promise to pay you back.. Yes Really!

*** In all seriousness thanks for posting this DOC. Companies like this put a lot of effort into making the money seem secure, when it really isn’t. It’s an unnecessary risk!

MoreSun
MoreSun (@guest_593926)
May 13, 2018 01:24

It even fails on the thrill front since anyone looking for a thrill is in crypto, or Vegas. Or both I guess, why limit oneself?

Colin
Colin (@guest_593840)
May 12, 2018 14:11

Wow – All the risk of junk debt, but a quarter of the yield. Sign me up!

john mccann
john mccann (@guest_593839)
May 12, 2018 14:11

2.5%. Windfall.

Billy
Billy (@guest_593859)
May 12, 2018 15:53

More like 2.5% Windfail 😉

whodidntante
whodidntante (@guest_593835)
May 12, 2018 13:57

If you want to take on credit risk, you can get similar returns by buying ICSH iShares Ultra Short-Term Bond ETF which currently yields 2.3%. If you want to take on credit risk and some term risk, and you can buy VCSH Vanguard Short-Term Corporate Bond ETF which currently yields 3.24%. You can see what these investments hold and decide if it is for you, unlike the CNote account. And you can sell the ETF on any day the market is open.

Ben
Ben (@guest_593837)
May 12, 2018 14:06

+1. Why in the world would anyone take on cnote risk for 50 basis points.

devyanks90
devyanks90 (@guest_593850)
May 12, 2018 15:24

If you can fund with a credit card, maybe worth it for a 2% CB or minimum spend?

Andrew
Andrew (@guest_593831)
May 12, 2018 13:19

No credit card funding