Posted by Chuck on November 6, 2017
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Published on November 6th, 2017 | by Chuck

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New Marriott Rewards MORE Shopping Program Review [Amazon Removed]

Update: Best Buy is back, Amazon still missing.

We’re reposting because Amazon & Best Buy are no longer options. When asked on Twitter they give the following response:

The link is currently down and we do not have an estimated time of when it will be back up. I do apologize for any inconvenience. -Leanne

Marriott introduced a new way to earn and redeem Marriott points by shopping with Marriott Rewards MORE.

Press Release / Marriott Rewards MORE 

Introduction

Marriott discontinued their Shop My Way portal partnership a few months back, and now launched their new shopping program through Engage People. The program is available in US, UK, and Canada.

Something different here is that Marriott Rewards MORE doesn’t work like a regular web portal by clicking through. Rather, you’ll download the app or add the toolbar extension on your favorite browser (you’ll see the option here).  Android download link / Apple download link

Presumably there’s a portal tracking going on with the toolbar/app, and it will override any previous portals you went through (in other words, you can’t stack this program with a more traditional shopping portal).

Another interesting thing is that different people appear to be getting different portal rates, for reasons that aren’t clear. For example, Amazon is 1x for some and 2x for others.

Earning

Available retailers currently include: Addition Elle, Amazon, Ann Taylor, Anthropologie, Apple, Best Buy, Barnes & Noble, Converse, FTD, Gap, Joma Shop, Land’s End, Liftopia, Loft, Macy’s, Mr. Porter, Net-A-Porter, Nike, Nordstrom, The Outnet, Petco, QVC, Ralph Lauren, Saks Fifth Avenue, Sephora, Shop Marriott, Sunglass Hut, Walgreens, and Wayfair.

Direct Link to list of all retailers (for some reason, not all available retailers show there, but you’ll see the toolbar working at all in the list above)

Amazon is especially interesting since they never offered portal rewards across all categories until recently with the Jetblue 3x deal. Hopefully, we’ll see more airlines creating such partnerships as well.

 

There’s a nice perk for Marriott Rewards credit card holders to get a 25% bonus on all points earned through the portal. The terms indicates that you won’t earn the 25% bonus on the part of the purchase paid for with a gift card (it’s vague whether this is only true for the 25% bonus or even for the base points). We’ll see if this holds true, in fact.

Redeeming

Using the same toolbar/app, you can redeem Marriott points for purchases at these retailers. You’ll get around 1/3 of a cent per point (.37 to be exact). Redemption rates are the same for all retailers.

Signup Bonus

There is a small bonus given to new members:

  • Earn 1,000 bonus points when you complete your first purchase of $25+

Final Thoughts

The signup bonus is nice with a simple $25 purchase, and some of their rates could be worthwhile, especially if you’re a Marriott cardholder who gets the 25% bonus. Could also be useful if it works to extend expiration of your Marriott points. Most people won’t find the redemption value worthwhile. I still hate toolbars and I hate shopping through apps.

Marriott’s program is a bit different than a typical portal experience in the sense that each retailer on the portal is available for both earning and redeeming. Other airline/hotel shopping portals just earn rewards, and perhaps have partnership with specific retailers to be able to redeem (e.g. Amazon partners with various points currencies to allow redemption). This detail is significant: we’re not likely to see Marriott Rewards MORE have hundreds of retailers available since Marriott and the retailer have to agree on to a deal on both the earning and redemption side.

Let us know your thoughts and experiences with the new portal in the comments.



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Charles
Charles

I suppose the reason for the difference of cashback rate is because of the member status in Marriott. I am a platinum and my rate is showing 2X for amazon.

Jordan
Jordan

I’m plat too but mine is showing 3X on amazon wow

A Stad
A Stad

Weird. I’m Gold and I have 3x on amazon.

ranova
ranova

hope this refreshes the expiration date! Will try with a $25 amazon purchase for 1k bonus points

The Value Traveler
The Value Traveler

yeah that was my question…will this extend the expiration date ? Im coming up to mine expiring in the next month…

JamaicanTraveller
JamaicanTraveller

Try the Twitter promo on Sundays they give 1K worth of points for answering a simple question, and it posts same day.

Gaurav
Gaurav

Those do not affect expiration.

Adam
Adam

My points posted to my account as “Qualifying Activity” so I’m pretty sure it will refresh the expiration. See my comment further down for more details.

P
P

Does anyone know if using gift cards to pay for purchases get tracked properly. 99.99% of my purchases from Amazon are paid with gift cards, and Jetblue 100% failed to track them (probably because the final cost is $0 after gift card payment).

Jack
Jack

Jetblue tracked 100% of those purchases i made on Amazon with gift cards fine. I made over 20k

P
P

Lucky you. Only one purchase paid partially with 1 MR point when they had the promo got tracked for me. That’s the only since December 2016 when I signed up for a JetBlue account.

JamaicanTraveller
JamaicanTraveller

Had that issue and reached out to them and got this:

“In the future; be sure you’re making each purchase by logging into your TrueBlue account at http://www.jetblue.com and then going through your unique link found on the Amazon partner page to log into Amazon. If you go through the link, but then go to look for a coupon, our promotion tracking is overridden by new tracking from other sites and you will not qualify for points. This tracking behavior is typical to the affiliate industry. Some of these invoices come up as Slick Deals or other sub sites as the referrer instead of JetBlue. You must click on the link and then shop only on Amazon and finish the purchase to receive the points

Here are a few things to remember:

*You must have cookies enabled on your web browser in order for the links to function correctly and the purchase to be tracked by the award system.

*Only items added to your cart through your unique link and purchased within 24 hours are eligible to earn TrueBlue points. Items previously placed in your shopping cart, prior to clicking your unique link, must be removed, and then added back into your shopping cart in order for TrueBlue points to be awarded. You must enter the unique link from the website each time. If you have the link bookmarked, the purchase will not qualify for points

*This offer is not valid when using the Amazon mobile app. When shopping with your mobile device, please ensure you are shopping on Amazon.com through a web browser, otherwise the order will not earn TrueBlue points.

See the list of items that are not eligible to earn points in the FAQ’s on the Amazon partner page on jetblue.com.

We appreciate your JetBlue support and look forward to your reply.

Adam
Adam

Thank you for sharing this clarification. I have been frustrated with my JetBlue earning rates with Amazon but I didn’t follow all of the “rules” you’ve so clearly described here.

Peter
Peter

I’m very impressed by the detail and clarity they provided in that support transcript.

Trevor
Trevor

Great post, thanks! Do you think there’s any chance this works for Amazon gift balance reloads?

DeauxBois
DeauxBois

Where in the terms did you see that points may not be earned on part of a purchase paid with a gift card?All I see is reference to “the portion paid with cash,” but based on how other terms and the FAQs are written, I think that just refers to the portion not paid by redeeming Marriott points (in the case of a points + cash purchase), not a portion paid with a gift card.

DaWoodMan1
DaWoodMan1

So I’m Marriott Gold, because of my Amex Platinum match through SPG and I only have 1 point for $1 at Amazon BUT I do have 3 points (not 2, like in the image) for $1 at Shop Marriott, go figure!

Chris
Chris

Seems that only credit card purchases earn points and only 3 types (Visa, Mastercard, Amex).

FAQs

“I don’t have a Marriott Rewards Credit Card. Can I still earn Points if I use a different credit card?

Yes. Visa®, Mastercard® and American Express® can all be used to earn Points when you pay for all or a portion of a purchase with your credit card.”

Marriott terms

8. EARNING POINTS ON THE MORE SHOPPING MALL

“You will earn Points (“Points”) on any portion of your Merchandise purchase that you make using a credit card.”

https://more.marriottrewards.com/terms

Discover credit cards, all debit cards and gift cards do not earn points.

If you use a gift card to pay part of your purchase you only earn points on the amount left that you pay with a credit card.

FAQs

“After the gift card or promotional code has been applied, the Marriott Rewards MORE toolbar or mobile app will recalculate the number of Points needed for the purchase based on the final amount owing to the retailer.”

Marriott has removed some major staking opportunities by implementing these rules.

Strange Marriott seems to dislike Discover for some reason.

I really hope this doesn’t spread to other shopping portal programs.

Marriott’s primary focus for this program is to get you to spend your points on merchandise and not to use them for hotel stays or transfer to partners like SPG which are far better redemption options.

It’s nice that you can earn Marriott points on purchases again but they striped out some of the previously available ways to earn their points.

🙁

Chris
Chris

In addition. I didn’t include this line from the FAQs

“The number of Points you earn also depends on the rate offered by the retailer and the *percentage of the purchase amount that you pay for with your credit card*.”

Chris
Chris

For Amazon purchases I usually use the Jet Blue portal @ 3 points combined with my Amazon store card @ 5% back. My valuation on the total return is around 9-10%. I don’t have the Ink Plus or Cash to buy gift cards @ 5 UR which would be better. Either of these options would be the standard go to unless an even deeper discounted gift card is available.

If I was to switch from the Jet Blue portal to the Marriott portal I would lose the 5% option from the store card and I wouldn’t even be able to substitute and earn on a Amazon gift card that I purchased at a discount or received a category bonus on when purchasing.
The Marriott terms sound as though the Amazon store card would be excluded since it’s not technically a credit card. I would only earn 1,2 or 3 Marriott points depending on what Marriott randomly gives me and base spend from the credit card that I use. If I had a Marriott card I would get the 25% bonus but my return would still be no where near my go to options.
Only plus would be that I could earn SPG points this way just at a inferior return rate.

Jet Blue
1.3 cents * 3 = 3.9 cents + 5% or more

Marriot
.9 cents * 1 = .9 cents (+ 25% = 1.125 cents) / .9 cents * 2 = 1.8 (+25% =2.25 cents)
.9 cents * 3 = 2.7 cents (+25% =3.375 cents)
+ base points from the credit card used.

SPG
2.7 cents
Marriot to SPG
1 = 1/3 = .9 cents
2 = 2/3 = 1.8 cents
3 = 1 =2.7 cents

Adam
Adam

See my “nuggets” in my comment further down to see if the double dip helps you.

WR
WR

That’s strange. I just made a purchase of $39.27, paid with Discover, and with the 1000 first time bonus, I received a total of 1032 points. Considering I should have received 2xMR, the 32 points was quite baffling, but at least I did get something paying with Discover. Perhaps they haven’t quite worked out all the kinks yet.

Chris
Chris

Interesting I don’t have a Discover card but thanks for the info I’m sure it will help others. It’s a little unsettling when the terms don’t match the reality.

The only reason I’m giving this any time was in the hopes of banking SPG points but it doesn’t seem worth it even @ 3 points since I cant use a gift card or my amazon store card.

This is just an overall bad deal however you slice it the numbers don’t add up.

Ed
Ed

Agree – just awful. I installed the toolbar and tried to complete the purchase using my Amazon gift card balance. That is a no go, and I could not complete the purchase. So I was forced to pay with a credit card to get the Marriott Rewards points. Overall, this is a lousy deal, since I would much rather use my Ink card to purchase Amazon GCs and then pay with my Amazon GC balance. I will delete this shopping toolbar as soon as I get the 1000 MR point bonus for my initial purchase. Back to the Jet Blue shopping portal for Amazon.

If this Marriott shopping portal worked as well and as simply as Jet Blue, I’d be a convert. But it’s a PITA.

BTW, I did this via my wife’s MR account. 3 MR points per dollar for shopping at Amazon. My Amazon purchase was $38.73. The toolbar said she would get 1090 MR points. Some sort of queer rounding error?

Dan
Dan

Do Ritz Carlton cardholders get the bonus?

kyle
kyle

im spg gold through spend last year and I’m seeing 3 points per dollar on amazon. i don’t have any stays with Marriott for this year or last year.

Jacques Cukierkorn
Jacques Cukierkorn

Half baked idea. Just wasted half an hour trying to make an Amazon purchase without sucess. Already deleted the app. Pure waste of time

kyle
kyle

Had no trouble paying through the app.

Put items in my cart on my computer browser then signed in through the app and they were there ready for me to checkout.

Here’s the section of an email I received right after the purchase. Also points have already posted to my account. Not quite 3x points per dollar like the app said so not sure about that.

Balance Paid with Credit Card $31.76

Base Points Earned +64
Gold Bonus Points Earned +16
First Purchase Bonus Points Earned +1,000
Total Points Earned 1,080

Adam
Adam

I’m confused.

I’ve installed the browser extension on two browsers, one for my account and one for my wife, as well as the iPhone app on my phone that’s connected to my account. I’m keen on using this portal for Amazon purchases, but I’ve now seen earning rates from 1 pt/$ (on the app), 2 pts/$ (first time logging in with the browser extension), and now 3 pts/$ (after logging in again with the browser extension a few hours later), all of which was with my account and I have SPG Platinum -> Marriott Platinum.

Adding to the confusion I see that my wife only shows 1 pt/$ on Amazon and she has Gold status.

Even more confusing is when I went to buy something. I went to the most logical easy purchase to test this portal out. I purchased a $25 e-gift card from Amazon. Using my account I saw that I would earn 1,039 pts. Using my wife’s account I saw that I would earn 1,014 pts. Both times I was purchasing a $25 gift card. I wanted to see the point breakdown in the ‘Order History’ but that page says “You do not have any transactions.” and I haven’t received any emails confirming my purchase through the portal.

As any good travel hacker does I tried to make sense of things by doing a deep dive on the fine print. Seems like Marriott has covered themselves pretty well with differences in earning rates when they say,
“The Points you may earn will vary among Retailers and are subject to change or may be removed without notice. The number of Points you earn for a particular purchase will be calculated as of the time of your purchase.”

I also found that gift cards are actually explicitly INCLUDED as valid purchases,
“‘Merchandise’ means any goods or services (including gift cards) purchased on your Account through MORE Shopping Mall from a Retailer.”

So my confusion leads me to these questions:

1. Will I earn points for purchasing Amazon Gift Cards?
2. If I earn points, how many points will I earn? How is this number calculated?
3. Will my gift card purchase show up on the ‘Order History’ page? Will I receive a confirmation email?
4. Why am I seeing different earning rates across status, time, and platform?

Gaurav
Gaurav

Usually I never luck out but just logged in and Amazon shows as 3x for me…

Ed
Ed

It showed 3X for me also. Actually got 2x. So don’t count your chickens yet.

Jordan
Jordan

Just curious, but isn’t Shop My Way (https://shopmyway.com/earnpoints/home) a Marriott portal?

Chris
Chris

🙂

It says Mileage plus United in the top right corner of the page.

I would just go through the main United mileage plus site myself to be safe though.

Raj
Raj

This is garbage. I just keep getting an error: “Unable to determine shopping cart total”

Bryan Kirschner
Bryan Kirschner

Are you using a gift card?

Nick
Nick

Same with me.. Probably because I am trying to pay with a GC

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