Tax Filing Season will be February 12th through April 15th

The IRS announced that tax filing season for 2020 will be delayed a bit this year, CNBC reports. Instead of beginning late January, returns will be able to be filed beginning February 12th. This gives the IRS time for updating the filing changes that came along with the Covid relief bill from December.

The IRS also made clear that taxes this year will be due on April 15th, despite last year’s extension of tax season through July 15th.

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AllwaysLearning22
AllwaysLearning22 (@guest_1162218)
March 17, 2021 12:55

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Bob
Bob (@guest_1129605)
January 18, 2021 10:50

A little annoying since I was floating money in estimated taxes, but I’ll live…

Ken
Ken (@guest_1129245)
January 17, 2021 13:07

So the IRS can’t delay stimulus payments so that they can actually send them to people, yet they can force those same people to wait weeks longer to receive their 2nd stimulus payment? Oh government, you never cease to amaze me.

tribesman55
tribesman55 (@guest_1129290)
January 17, 2021 14:56

Yeah this is freaking ridiculous.

Nash
Nash (@guest_1128584)
January 15, 2021 19:26

This whole tax filing thing is a sham. I filed through turbotax in 2019 April and got my usual refund. Sometime in 2020, I got a mail from IRS that I have to pay them $2000 for some missed thing in that filing. I realized the mistake, fixed the return and refiled it for a $50 refund as told by turbotax instead of $2000 tax. Guess what, I got a mail back from IRS in 3-4 weeks that the refund is $450 and not $50. I don’t understand the whole point of why they have to go back and forth and tell me that the refund is $450 instead of fixing the whole return thing in the first place and provide my refund. The whole episode told me that IRS could very well get way with the whole tax filing process, but the private companies are the ones stopping them.

Peter
Peter (@guest_1128644)
January 15, 2021 20:51

Totally agree with you. You’d think that it is in this country’s best financial interest to make paying taxes simple, convenient, and cheap (e.g. not having to buy a lame software every spring) to 100% of its citizens

Kafka
Kafka (@guest_1128771)
January 16, 2021 07:00

You can file your taxes on one page, or three if you have common investments. It takes minutes with no software.

The complexity in the US tax system only enters when people decide to take advantage of incentives. If you’re willing to put in some research, you can do this yourself. If you want to expend less effort, you can pay for software or an accountant.

Ultimately, the reason we don’t have the “one 3×5 card in five minutes” tax system is that we want to give incentives for people to buy houses, go to college, give to charity, save for retirement, etc. Collecting tax revenue is a distant second.

Ken
Ken (@guest_1129250)
January 17, 2021 13:15

^^ This. The vast, vast majority of tax filers have uncomplicated returns that take little time to complete. I’ve had a varying level of returns over the past 20+ years and even with very complicated returns with W2 and multiple self-employment incomes, investments, complicated p2p investing, it still only took me a few days to do it myself taking a few hours a day.

Peter
Peter (@guest_1131743)
January 21, 2021 10:42

I agree with you two and have always done my own taxes. While it’s gotten more complicated over time, I have all the forms I need in an interlinked Excel file. Only started paying for tax software in recent years to do efiling so I don’t have to snail mail a whole tree every spring.

That said, the tax system appears intimidating and most people don’t have the time, patience, or reading comprehension to endure it. I’ve encouraged quite a few of my coworkers (all with above-average education) to do their own taxes at least once and none of them considered it seriously. The complexity of deductions and credits – which affect most people by the way – only makes it worse (I believe strongly that we can have a simpler tax system without all these “incentives”, but that’s really beside the point here).

There’s no reason the IRS cannot make its own version of Credit Karma Tax and offer it for free to all Americans. The improved efficiency in tax collection, paperwork processing, and auditing should cover the costs. Instead, the IRS shuffles the forms around every year to make things confusing to the taxpayers (for example estimated payments was on 1040, got moved to schedule 3 a couple years ago, and is now back on 1040 this year). No wonder the private tax filing support is such a large and profitable industry.

randomguy
randomguy (@guest_1128690)
January 15, 2021 23:16

No, the point is if IRS already knows what the tax refund/owed is, why does it want us to file? To make sure we learn how to file taxes?

The answer is the tax filing companies bribe (otherwise called lobbying in US) politicians to make the system as is.

I am talking about individuals/couples who have only W2 income.

randomguy
randomguy (@guest_1129035)
January 16, 2021 18:35

I understand what you are saying, but Turbotax’s a shady lobbying to disable free filing option does not spell innocence.

https://www.propublica.org/article/inside-turbotax-20-year-fight-to-stop-americans-from-filing-their-taxes-for-free

qmc
qmc (@guest_1128698)
January 15, 2021 23:40

IRS only knows part of the info that goes into your return.

James
James (@guest_1128465)
January 15, 2021 17:11

Another delay for those who never got stimulus payments last year and are trying to claim it on their tax return via the rebate credit.

If Biden and Congress passes another round of stimulus before IRS opens their filing I seriously wonder what they’ll do.

AJ
AJ (@guest_1128451)
January 15, 2021 16:57

Still waiting on my 2019 refund. Paper filed on October 15. Haven’t heard anything since. Doesn’t even show up in the online status check.

I got my state refund about 6 weeks after I filed. Smaller jurisdiction that usually is 7-10 days in normal times.

artgriego
artgriego (@guest_1128493)
January 15, 2021 17:42
  AJ

Also paper filed, and checked on my $600 stimulus round 2 payment, they ‘don’t have enough information’. Meanwhile I checked on the money order I sent for 2019 tax payment – cashed!!

Aby
Aby (@guest_1128340)
January 15, 2021 15:19

What happens if I file my returns before Feb 12??

Vy
Vy (@guest_1128351)
January 15, 2021 15:28

Be the datapoint you want to see.

SamL
SamL (@guest_1128382)
January 15, 2021 15:59

Tax software may let you “file” before then (to be done with it), but they simply hold it until IRS is ready to accept.

Nash
Nash (@guest_1128574)
January 15, 2021 19:14

All they do is to store the returns and transmit them to IRS once the IRS filing is open. This is the case in normal times too. Not every filing is immediately transmitted to IRS and even when the filing is sent to IRS, they take their own sweet time to acknowledge your return. An acknowledgement from IRS usually takes up to 72 hours after filing.

JoeSchmoe
JoeSchmoe (@guest_1128654)
January 15, 2021 21:06

It sits in a giant queue/inbox until the ancient IRS computer opens the floodgates and starts processing returns.

There’s a tiny, tiny, tiny chance your return is accepted the week prior as part of their small test batch(es) before they open the gates to everyone else on the 12th.

Gerald
Gerald (@guest_1129053)
January 16, 2021 19:23

Interestingly, the IRS web page for Free File Fillable Forms (https://www.irs.gov/e-file-providers/free-file-fillable-forms) says “Opens Jan. 25, 2021, at 11 a.m. ET.”

Mike
Mike (@guest_1128335)
January 15, 2021 15:14

So is today, January 15th, still the last day to prepay taxes for the 2020 tax year or has that been extended as well?

Kyle808
Kyle808 (@guest_1128472)
January 15, 2021 17:18

January 15, 2021 is still the due date for the September 1, 2020 – December 31, 2020 payment period per the IRS; no extension.

dizzy
dizzy (@guest_1128316)
January 15, 2021 14:53

It would be neat if they would announce when you would get your refund. Filed in early March; amended in early June. Got part of my refund in mid September, and just today got a letter saying they owe me interest. But no check for that or for the rest of refund.

Tyler
Tyler (@guest_1128326)
January 15, 2021 15:06

My mother got a 1099-INT from the IRS for $13 of interest that she was never paid, nor got notice that she was owed interest. Sounds like they’re backed up in many ways. (Which is tough when they’re the judge and jury on all these matters.)

Gerald
Gerald (@guest_1128339)
January 15, 2021 15:19

I filed a paper return (as I always do) for 2019 sometime in April and didn’t get my refund until mid-September. I have somewhat complicated taxes (capital gains, business income) so the private free services don’t work for me. This time I’m going to the IRS’s free filing service so I hope I’ll get better turnaround. It’s at https://www.irs.gov/e-file-providers/free-file-fillable-forms

CtownBin
CtownBin (@guest_1128552)
January 15, 2021 18:57

If anything that’s pretty good, I paper-filed my 2018 taxes (can’t do e-file for prior years unfortunately, I really wonder what they gain from this policy) on 4/2/20, and didnt get my refund until 11/30. So you beat me by 2 months! In fact, I filed my 2016 taxes on 4/14/20 and STILL haven’t gotten my refund, going on 9 months… this makes me suspect that maybe they’re prioritizing newer years, although how would they know the year before opening it and doesnt it only take a few minutes to process once opened? Who knows. But either way, the mail backlog last year was insane, hopefully this year should be much better with no IRS shutdown.

gary
gary (@guest_1128755)
January 16, 2021 03:19

Filing taxes years late is not a good idea. Just get them done in Feb or March and it works just fine. No backlog. All is fine.

Tony
Tony (@guest_1128446)
January 15, 2021 16:49

Will IRS asking for a cut on that “interest”?

Gerald
Gerald (@guest_1129052)
January 16, 2021 19:18

Yes. I got a 1099-INT from the IRS a few days ago.

Frank
Frank (@guest_1128812)
January 16, 2021 09:51

Same situation as you but haven’t gotten the refund yet. They keep saying 9 weeks (and then 9 more when that deadline passes). Bullshit system

Calwatch
Calwatch (@guest_1128289)
January 15, 2021 14:29

There’s a weird loophole where if you file by January 30, you don’t have to pay estimates taxes due January 15. Guess that needs to be resolved somehow.

Kai
Kai (@guest_1128367)
January 15, 2021 15:40

I came here just for this reason. I’m hoping they clarify soon, I’m almost ready to file already.

Kafka
Kafka (@guest_1128772)
January 16, 2021 07:06

If I understand correctly, that’s always the case so long as you wouldn’t have incurred a penalty. For example, if your total tax owed for the year was $10,000 and you paid $3,000 each in Q1, Q2, and Q3, you’d reach the 90% threshold even if you made no Q4 payment. In that case, your Q4 payment can be received until 30 Jan and still count as a quarterly estimated payment, not an amount owed on your taxes.
No clue why this exists.