Posted by Chuck on September 18, 2017
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Published on September 18th, 2017 | by Chuck

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[Expired] Barclay Arrival+ Now with 50,000 Point Bonus, Worth $525 in Travel

[Update 9/18/17: According to DansDeals this offer will end tomorrow 9/19/17. PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT IT LOOKS LIKE BARCLAYCARD HAS A NEW 6/24 RULE FOR THIS CARD. PLEASE KEEP THIS IN MIND. ALTHOUGH IT DOESN’T LOOK TO BE A TRUE HARD RULE IT’S WORTH READING UP ON]

[Update 9/12/17: According to OMAAT, this signup bonus offer will end within the next few days. Offer began on 9/16/16, almost a year ago.]

The Offer

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  • Signup for the Barclay Arrival Plus World Elite Mastercard and get 50,000 bonus points after spending $3,000 within 90 days

screen-shot-2016-09-16-at-12-24-09-amCard Details

  • $89 annual fee, waived the first year
  • No foreign transaction fee
  • Points are worth $.01 per point when redeemed for travel (which makes the signup bonus worth $500)
  • Double points on all purchases (effective earning rate of 2.1% back on all purchases)
  • There’s also a 5% bonus after redeeming points (redeem 50,000 points and get 2500 points bonus, for example)

Our Verdict

The card wasn’t available for signup at all via ordinary channels until a couple weeks ago. Good to see them increase the bonus. I don’t think they’ve ever had anything more than the 40k offer as a public offer so this is a unique opportunity to get an extra $105 value out of the card.

If you just applied recently, try escalating to a supervisor and you might have success getting the new bonus matched.

Remember that Barclay doesn’t limit us to once bonus per life, and so long as you don’t currently have the card you can signup again. And Barclay typically pulls Transunion which is a lesser used bureau. Arrival+ wasn’t on my plate, but maybe I’m considering going for it with the 50k bonus.

It’s worth reading 26 Things You Should Know About Barclaycard Credit Cards before applying.

Hat tip to welltraveledmile

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Nick
Nick

Does Barclays code Plastiq as a cash advance? I may get this and pay my rent for a quich $500.

spamman808
spamman808

I’ve been using it with Plastiq, no cash advance.

B
B

Been using Barclays MC for HoA payments. Works just fine.

Ravi
Ravi

Hi Chuck,
Thanks for the post. I had cancelled by Arrival+, 7 months back. Reading your previous post tells me that I should be eligible again to get the bonus (i.e. passed 6 months limit). But here is the question, In T&C for this offer says: “This onetime 50,000 miles bonus offer is valid for first-time Cardmembers with new accounts only.” Does it mean that they have changed their churnable policy and I will not be able to get the bonus again?

adam d
adam d

I got the arrival+ for a 2nd time 3 1/2mos ago after downgrading and closing, so 2yrs total, I think 7mos is cutting it too close imo for possibly a wasted pull and denial

Ravi
Ravi

Thanks! Even I had closed the card 2 years back, do you think I would have been able to get the bonus again? Because, T&C says: “This onetime 50,000 miles bonus offer is valid for first-time Cardmembers with new accounts only.”
Is this statement always been there all along and never been enforced?

NinjaX
NinjaX

if ur still talking about TC vs actual practice for this card, you havent read enough.

M
M

If they deny you based on previously having the card, there won’t be a hard pull if you are a current Barclaycard customer.

savemesf
savemesf

I think that language was added somewhat recently, but is not being enforced.

I got the Arrival+ for the second time in April and the bonus points posted for me.

Slidellian
Slidellian

How long did you wait before applying for the second one?

William Charles

That language has been there for awhile and isn’t enforced.

Nick
Nick

Can confirm I received the 50K bonus with this new sign up. Was last approved for Arrival+ in 5/2015, cancelled card in 5/2016 and reapplied and approved 9/2016. Hopefully they keep not enforcing the T&C!

adam d
adam d

I signed up 3 1/2 months ago for a second time (1st arrival+ : 2013) sadly I think ima few months too late to match 🙁

Austin
Austin

If I previously had the Arrival+ but downgraded it to the Arrival about 6 months ago, could I get this bonus on another Arrival+?

Roberto
Roberto

No, I would close the Arrival first, then apply.

Last AOR, I tried applying for an Arrival+ while having an Arrival and was denied the bonus. It took several calls to CSRs to get them to post the bonus miles and I got different stories on if I was really eligible because I already had an Arrival. I’d suggest saving yourself the headache I went through and just close your Arrival completely.

Roberto
Roberto

Just to clarify my above comment, I eventually was approved for the Arrival+ and got the 40k bonus, but it took several calls and follow ups with various reps. Sounds like all the hassle could have been avoided had I just closed my Arrival before applying.

captainsave
captainsave

I have a different problem. Signed up but missed the spending by one day so i didn’t get the bonus. Cancel the card in march. Will i be eligible for the bonus?

James B.
James B.

With Barclay it is recommended to wait at least 6 months before applying again for a new Barclay credit card.

You should be eligible for the new 50k bonus.

Quinn
Quinn

I opened the Arrival+ a week ago with 40,000 bonus. I sent a SM asking to be matched to the 50,000 offer and was denied 🙁 I’m going to try again by phone.

mjaredc
mjaredc

Damn I was just getting ready to send in a SM too, but you answered that for me. I also applied last week for both myself and wife and just received the cards yesterday.

If you get any luck speaking to a human let me know.

DrRyan_L
DrRyan_L

Can You Post If Asking For A Supervisor worked? I also signed up too early. 🙁

ReconScott
ReconScott

Barclay doesn’t seem to be as good as others with matching better offers. I got Aviator at 40K and when it went to 50K a week later, I couldn’t get them to match.

captainsave
captainsave

Got pending message. Whats barclay reconsider number?

William Charles
fathiss
fathiss

+1

henry
henry

+2

NinjaX
NinjaX

+3

Frank
Frank

After I got Sallie Mae, Barclay no longer approved a single card for me, no matter how many times I called, while other issuers haven’t turned me down for at least 2 years. The reason from Barclay is always too many hard pulls/ too many accounts. They pulled TransUnion on which I only have 3 hard pulls and 5 new accounts in the last 24 months. It’s just crazy. I don’t know why they deem me that risky.

TU HO
TU HO

OMG, I have Sallie Mae. Just applied and denied. It’s really bad 🙁

Ugly
Ugly

Any other DP on this? I have one Sallie Mae and my wife has two. Was thinking of going for Arrival+ again.

Frank
Frank

This is stupid. For Chase and Citi and Amex, whoever the issuer is, we at least have some idea what makes them decline the application. But for Barclay, it sucks. I have no idea what the logic is. I never miss a payment, FICO is at 780, not many new accounts/ hard pull, no much credit with Barclay, I didn’t see why they keep declining me for the card.

Scott
Scott

Same here too, after I got Sallie Mae, 6 months later, I was denied for an application for another card. Called reconsideration, they said I had too many inquiries (5 on Trans within last year) and too many accounts with them (currently I only have two Barclay cards). I remember seeing a post says they only allow you having two accounts with them. Maybe close one before you apply for this one?Would that be possible to get approved with a better chance?

Kevin
Kevin

They are very tough on new accounts/inquiries. With Barclay it’s best to hope for an instant approval because recons are very tough especially when the reason is “too many new accounts”. Almost impossible to get them to overturn.

mark
mark

+1

NinjaX
NinjaX

well, its about time u said it…

Slidellian
Slidellian

Lol

James B.
James B.

Please give an update on whether the 2nd Arrival+ app was approved.

Usually it is best to wait at least 6 months between Barclay apps.

ed
ed

What about wait time after cancelling before applying for new if you hadn’t applied for any Barclay card in years?

katye
katye

I would say wait about a month. I got denied with US Airways when waiting less than a month, so I always wait more than a month between cancelling and applying for Arrivals.

Kris
Kris

How many Barclay cards can I have? I have Priceline Reward visa since Oct 2014 and other CC apps have been declined for a few times in 2015. Haven’t applied for any Barclay card in 2016.

Patrick
Patrick

Any idea when this increased bonus offer will end?

William Charles

No idea, sorry.

Preacher
Preacher

Can you hold 2 of these at the same time?

Nate
Nate
fathiss
fathiss

Did you read the post? I guess laziness is contagious.

henry
henry

preacher, did you read the post

Elo
Elo

Two questions:
1. Can I get the arrival plus if I currently have the no fee arrival? Seems like they are two different cards, so I’m assuming yes…
2. Is it possible to use arrival points for a Global Entry fee?

Thanks!!

Frank
Frank

1. Yes, you can.
2. No, you can’t

Elo
Elo

Unfortunately, just found out that Barclays considered my current arrival the same product as arrival plus so no go

fathiss
fathiss

Sent a secure message and they denied the match. But in their response they addressed me by the wrong name! Called to speak to a supervisor to complain I may have a security breach due to the wrong name thing and to ask for the match. Put on hold for 5 minutes and she assured me no security breach (clerical error) but they would match to the 50,000 offer, especially due to the perception of a breach.
Long story to say calling a supervisor worked but not sure if the special circumstance helped.

William Charles

Thanks for the DP.

John K
John K

If my spouse is an authorized user on my barclay arrival +, is she eligible to apply for this card and earn the bonus?

katye
katye

Yes, did the same for my parents.

katye
katye

Also, for future reference being an AU on one card doesn’t prevent you from getting the card in the future. So you don’t have the ask this question again…

Matt
Matt

What bureau does Barclaycard typically pull? (I’m in NY). TU right? Good opportunity to dust off my TU file, the HPs are looking pretty barren on that one. My EX on the other hand…. 😛

jd
jd

Damn, I wasn’t auto approved and went straight to pending. I had cancelled this card 10 months ago and currently have one other Barclay card which is about a year old and put $30k+ spending on in the last year.

I guess I’ll keep my fingers crossed and wait out the pending status before calling reconsideration.

katye
katye

You are fine…I applied for this card a few times (6+ months between apps). #2 and #3 went into pending but both were eventually approved without calling in. Didn’t put as much spend as you did beyond the minimum requirement.

Ken
Ken

How sensitive is Barclays to recent new cards or inquiries? They pull TU for me and I have 0 pulls form them but plenty of new cards in the past 12 months and plenty of current cards as well.

Steve
Steve

I applied and got denied. When I called recon they mentioned my AU card for my wife’s account was the reason. They did the recon and pulled a credit report but was still denied anyway as I have 9 cards within the last 6 months. YMMV

bayguy
bayguy

I was shutdown in June 2015, any chance of approval now? Does anyone know how long Barclay keeps one in blacklist?

NinjaX
NinjaX

can u share DP why? or is it something too obvious like you MS 100k/mo?

Sa
Sa

Same question as above for the veterans here: how long after the last aporama to apply fo Barclays cards?
I was denied because of four new cards last three months. Was told to reaply “later”, when they could see how i am managing these new accounts. But wasn’t told after how long. Should i wait another three months or more or less? Thanks for advice.

shashi
shashi

What all barclay cards have best offers currently the can I apply to have only one Hard pull?

Kay
Kay

My Aviator Red AA card AF is coming due and they would not waive the fee. Time to close it and consider applying for the Arrival card instead.

Corridor
Corridor

I applied under the 40k offer about a month ago. I called today and was told no by the front line rep. I asked to speak to a supervisor (manager) and she was able to honor it for me.

William Charles

Thanks, looks like asking for a supervisor is key.

PG
PG

Intended to apply for this card today, anyway, so increased sign up bonus is awesome. Auto approved with 2 new cards in last 3 mo and 5 in last 6. After having been denied twice for this card, this time I waited more than 6 mo since last application and made sure to put monthly spend on another card of theirs before closing it in a few months ago.

Anon
Anon

No dice on 50K match with SM or with front-line rep or with supervisor. Congrats to anyone who pulled it off.

doug
doug

definitely considering this. will a product change to the regular arrival still be possible to completely avoid any AF? i dont see the regular arrival on their product list anymore so just wondering if anyone has an idea

Ss
Ss

“Points are worth $.01 per point when redeemed for travel (which makes the signup bonus worth $500)”

Can I redeem them for airline gift cards if I don’t have any recent travel coming up? Thanks.

howard
howard

is there any definitive answer as to whether non-citizens and non permanent residents can apply? I searched and found a related post, but there wasn’t a final answer either. Thanks Doc!

mangoceviche
mangoceviche

Datapoint- Already have two Aviator cards. Closed Miles & More in July. Applied for Jetblue Plus and Miles & More in August – Denied Jetblue Plus but approved for Miles & More. Today applied for Jetblue Plus and was denied. After that, applied for Arrivals Plus and was approved. Both August Miles & More and today’s Arrivals Plus were auto approvals.

I can’t figure out why I am having such a hard time getting approved for the Jetblue Plus.

Nancy
Nancy

I applied for Jetblue Plus and Arrival+ both on the same day (Arrival + first). Both went to pending but Arrival + went to approved today. Not sure how the Jetblue is going to do.

Gil
Gil

Any idea when this offer will go away?

William Charles

No sorry

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon

Data point:

Bought a Marriott gift card (gifts.marriott.com) for exactly $100 earlier this week. One day after the charge posted it showed up in the list of travel charges eligible to be reimbursed with points, so I burned up 10,000 points today.

I had read where this worked a year or two ago but wanted my own current DP.

William Charles

Thanks curm 🙂

Bungy
Bungy

Many many Data points: Applied for Jetblue biz and Arrival +.within minutes of each other. Got pending message and then denied. 48 hours later called recon. Barclays did NOT merge the inquiries. Jet blue was a hard no, they said the Arrival app never went through and was simply ignored. Recon asked if they could pull once again, I said yes. I had armed myself with all the right answers (started a new business, planning to travel lots, expanding my credit, wanted to use A+ as my daily). Concerned with average age and # of accounts. I told them I carry a near zero balance on over $100,000. I spend and pay consistency. Still I was approved over the phone finally for $10,0000 CL. They could not split the CL between jet blue and A+.

I have FIVE TU pulls from Barclays for essentially one card in 9 months.
I made a mistake and tried to increase my CL on my Barclaycards reward. -1
Applied in october, pending then denied -1
Called recon too late in November.was unprepared for the questions.Pulled TU again. Hard no -1
Jet blue -1
Arrival + on recon, now prepared. Approved with another pull -1

If Barclays didn’t just pull TU, I would have given up long ago.

A LOT has to do with the mood of the rep. Some say they do better with women. however my guy was very cheery and wanted to push this through I could tell.Recon in November was very short with me, called lasted 4 minutes and more or less hung up on me.

After I was rejected in November, I put some spend on my old Rewards and promptly paid it off. Roughly $1500 over three months, no MS, as a sometimes daily with gas and food..

750 FICO, 740 TU, 8/24 but more like 8/6. AAoA is very low, 1 year, 5 mo.

Hope this helps.

Bo
Bo

Just applied and approved instantly. Had the Arrival+ two years ago. Three inquiries on TransUnion prior to application.

Darv
Darv

Applied for Arrival+ 09/2016. Final Arrival+ redemption 01/17. Product changed to Rewards Mastercard 02/17. Did one 50 cent Amazon reload with new Rewards card to trigger $10 bonus offer. Cashed out final $40 02/17. Canceled card 02/17. Applied for new Arrival+ 03/17, instantly approved. 10 TU inquiries including this latest pull.

As for the product change, they said Rewards MC was not available but I said if it comes down to it, will close account, transferred to somebody else who promptly changed it.

TU is about 800, at least 40/24.

rab
rab

How do you spend $3000 in 90 days? Serious question.

Flig
Flig

Rent

garaged
garaged

Is there an end date on this Arrival+ offer?

William Charles

No

garaged
garaged

Thank you, William!

I guess I’ll hold off on applying for this until I’m done with the spend on my Merrill+, SPG Amex and CFU.

Charles
Charles

I just was targeted and they say to apply by June 02, 2017. Not sure if that means it will be publicly available until then, but it’s a DP.

caroline
caroline

I received invitation in the mail twice, finally applied today and got approval in less than 10 seconds. CL 12K, income $35K, Vantage score 771, FICO score 751, 3 hardpull in last 2 yrs, and 5/24 new accounts.

Mel
Mel

Whats the best way to meet the $3000 spend for the bonus?
It seems that funding PNC bank account is now considered a cash advance on this card
https://www.doctorofcredit.com/does-funding-a-bank-account-with-a-credit-card-count-as-a-purchase-or-cash-advance/#PNC

Gadget
Gadget

Applied for one. Approved, 12.5K, 775-ish FICO. Had the Barclay Arrival (non +) mid-last year, for the $200, but closed it once I was done spending my rewards. Because I am a recent customer, got instant online access using my login info from last card. However, I can’t see the full CC and no CVC, so I can’t start my spend. Submitted a SM to get the card expedited, with a story about why… hopefully I get it early, and not at the full price ($15). Not the end of the world either way I suppose.

Gadget
Gadget

SM Response = “Regrettably, we are unable to expedite your new card”. And, a very long pre-canned response about the new card, that it will take 7-10 days, etc etc.

bob
bob

Can I downgrade this card sometime after meeting and redeeming the bonus to avoid the annual fee?

William Charles

Second year onwards yes, first year not advised.

DTN
DTN

Data point: I purchsed giftcards on Southwest.com and I was able to redeem the charge as a travel credit. And you can use your $500 as part of your $3000 spend – just make sure it falls within 120 days or it will roll off the travel statement webpage.

Debt Hater

I have a Sallie Mae card (called Commence now), and was denied when I applied for Barclay for too many inquiries/too many accounts. Credit score around 780, it’s strange as I actually have no recent inquiries on my TransUnion report. Have recently received a new Amex card, but that hard pull was not listed on TU. I’m thinking it has to be the Sallie Mae account based on some previous comments – but that’s only one?

GM
GM

I used to have the Arrival Plus last year but don’t remember this.. It’s asking if I’m a US citizen (which I am not). Will that affect my application approval chances?

Dee
Dee

I recently applied for the AAdvantage Aviator Red a week back and my application went into pending (“denied” on the application status page). Called Recon and was told I needed to submit addl documentation namely, social security card, driver’s license and address proof. I assumed it was due to my NOT being a citizen. They approved me after mailing the copies in so as long as you can provide those, your citizenship status shouldnt have any negatve impact.

MM Austin
MM Austin

Have applied for Barclays Arrival Plus card few minutes back. it went into Pending State. The Application Status says “Currently we are unable to offer you a credit card issued by Barclays Bank Delaware. Details on why we could not make you a credit offer will be mailed to you.”

1. Does this mean her application has been denied?
2. Can being NON-Citizen be the reason?
3. For how many days should we wait before calling the recon line?

Indian Citizen. Credit History 100k
She was approved for Citi Prestige 75k TYP, 10 days back.

MM Austin
MM Austin

Update: Just saw that Barclay has requested a Credit Report from TU. looks like Things are cooking (processing). hope it is an approval. else would have to call them… dont like that part.

GM
GM

I actually went ahead and applied with the correct information, was approved instantly.

MM Austin
MM Austin

Which information was corrected? Was it the Citizen Status?

Gm
Gm

Yes, my actual citizenship status.

MM Austin
MM Austin

That means citizenship is not a criteria for my wife’s rejection. that is odd. We have no relationship with Barclays IMO her profile is great for this card. will call recon line.

Jake N
Jake N

Applied for Arrival+ last night and went to pending automatically because I had frozen my EXP and EQX. Called recon and was denied due to “too many new accounts opened” and that “we want to see you have more history with these new cards”.

I’ve opened 5 accounts in 2017, 10 in the last 12 months.

Have an Aviator with them since 12/2014, and closed my Arrival+ in 10/2016.

TU score ~800 and no TU pulls since 9/2015.

Roberto
Roberto

Jake N, did you get a HP?

Jake N
Jake N

Yes, per Credit Karma.

KND
KND

I think it worth mentioning that the $500 in travel statement credits can only be applied to expenses of $100 or more.

Also note, the last redemption I tried to make was capped at $100, even though the transaction was for $156; because my point balance was less than 12,500. Somewhere deep in the terms, it says the redemptions start at $100, then can increase incrementally by $25. I didn’t have enough points for $125, so I only got $100.

Oddly enough, my previous redemptions had all been for oddball amounts above $100. But when I called to ask about it, they said the system was behaving inline with the benefit terms.

Overall I was still happy with the >$500 in cash that I walked away with on this card.

Enjoy

B
B

Book a hotel on priceline. Once the amount posts. Redeem amount with travel credit. Cancel priceline hotel appointment.

Done and dusted.

RJ
RJ

Have you done this? I have never used Priceline, but every other hotel I’ve booked, my card isn’t charged until check-in.

This would be easy!

RB
RB

I applied today 7/24/2017 for the Barclay Arrival+ credit card and was instantly approved with a credit line of 5K. Also, I am neither a US Citizen nor a Permanent Resident Alien (Green Card). I chose Non U.S. Citizen and was still approved for the card.

I have had no previous relationship with Barclays in the past. Also, got instant notification from the Credit Karma App on the phone confirming a Hard Credit Pull from Trans Union and I am location in FL.

MM Austin
MM Austin

Credit Karma is my go to for info about my cards. bur never tried its App. instant notification sounds good. will try it out. thanks for sharing.

Elizabeth
Elizabeth

Rejected for card! I have the Barclay cash forward and Jet Blue plus now. Called reconsideration line and they wouldn’t do anything. They said it’s because I’ve been aggressively opening new accounts in the past 24 months and I “need some time away from that”. They didn’t say there was a limit to how many accounts one is allowed to open in 24 months. I’m at 17/24. Very disappointed.

Tom
Tom

Also disappointed.
I have no previous Barclay cards.
I’m at 15/24, one of those is a new car loan.
Credit score 825 . Verifiable income $120k+
Denied
Don’t have the desire to call recon.

MarcoPolo
MarcoPolo

Wow Elizabeth….17/24
Way to go girl 🙂

mike t
mike t

28/24. Still get approved. Credit score ranges 750-780. Shocked though.

George
George

Denied for “too many new accounts in the past 24 months”. Currently have only one Barclay card (Wyndham) and that was almost 2 years ago. Da hell Barclays!!!!

Ken
Ken

How many new cards have you had in total across all banks in the past 24 months?

Jeff G
Jeff G

Same here. From what I am reading on other sites, they seem to have cracked down a bit the past couple of months.

P
P

Same here. They’re strict when it comes to this card. I’ve applied twice for this card the past 18 months, and got denied. But I was able to close a HA card and applied for the Aviator card within a month and got approved.

Jeff G
Jeff G

Yep, read that it really is about the Arrival + and not the other cards.

I loved using this card to cover airbnb rentals.

Kaung
Kaung

Oh man, I was going back and forth between this card and a second M+ (because they can pull from TU), went with the latter because of the reported end date next week. Who know A+ would end this soon too!

If my M+ gets the “approved in error” I will def apply for this right away!

Eric
Eric

“While nothing has publicly been announced, it’s my understanding that the increased sign-up bonus on the Arrival Plus will be pulled in the coming days”.
How confident is OMAAT on this (without any reasoning)? As Citi ThankYou Preferred and Chase Sapphire Preferred both have bonus at 50k points, I do not see why Barclay has the intent to change the bonus.

William Charles

I assume he was told that his affiliate links will be pulled. That doesn’t mean all links will disappear but usually it’s an indication the bonus is on the way out, YMMV.

TomC
TomC

Ben “Lucky” Schlappig at One Mile…. did a similar announcement a few weeks ago about the 50K offer for the CitiBank Premier card. It turned out to be a load of BS. A number of people say he does it to spike affiliate link revenue for his blog. All the other bloggers link his blog and thus aggregating the people who were on the fence, waiting for HPs to fall off or putting time between card apps/openings. I don’t trust the guy.

William Charles

Hi TomC,

it’s possible but weren’t affiliate links removed for that offer? I know that there are still non affiliate links working.

TomC
TomC

Not sure what links are working or not on his site. Don’t trust the guy.

CatLover
CatLover

Got rejected because “too many accounts opened within the past 24months”. Just called for recon. The rep was very curt and didn’t ask for any extra info.

Mike L
Mike L

I had no problem getting the Aviator card from them last week and I was 5/24’d by Chase a couple weeks ago. The app did go pending and they called me. I never called back and was approved anyway. I wonder what how many is too many in 24 months?

captainsave
captainsave

How long does it take for the closed card to be removed from the sign in account?

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon

I closed mine 5 months ago and it’s still there. So…. it’s gotta be more than 5 months. 🙂

James B.
James B.

Barclay removed my Arrival+ from the sign in page about 6-7 months after I closed it.

AJ

received card: May 2017
met requirements: August 2017
received 50K points: August 2017
booked air ticket, received statement credit: $600

yesterday received mail by post saying they are closing my card effective immediately due to too many accounts opened and or too many inquiries on file.

James B.
James B.

Hi AJ,

How many accounts did you open?

Josh
Josh

Did they re pull your report? Crazy.

YRK
YRK

Apply for this or Citi Premier OR wait for Bofa Premium Travel?

Anony Mouse

Why not all three? They’re all from different issuers…

Or maybe apply for Arrival+ today, Citi Premier a month from now (assuming the offer is still 50k TYP then, which is a big ‘if’), and BofA Premium a month after that?

YRK
YRK

True. But dont know if gonna be approved for all three.
And the point about citi premier possibility of bonus going away is also a factor. Already have CSP, PRG in travel cards.
Thanks for the suggestion

mark
mark

Applied for ML yesterday, they declined saying too many open accounts, Applied for Barclay today, did not auto approve. I have had 3 barclays in last 9 months. Looks like it is going to be harder to get any approval at least for a year or say. They say insufficient length of history due to frequent opening and closing. I have no regret, get it whenever you can, this game is not going to last long. Also, I’m not into hotel/airline points unless I can sell it. I like CASH.

MoreSun
MoreSun

FWIW the points post as soon as your charge posts!

TomC
TomC

Ben “Lucky” Schlappig at One Mile…. did a similar announcement a few weeks ago about the 50K offer for the CitiBank Premier card. It turned out to be a load of BS. A number of people say he does it to spike affiliate link revenue for his blog. All the other bloggers link his blog and thus aggregating the people who were on the fence, waiting for HPs to fall off or putting time between card apps/openings. I don’t trust the guy.

James B.
James B.

Hi TomC,

I agree that readers need to be wary about blogs that have credit card affiliate links. Those blogs have a tendency to turn into marketing and advertising platforms for the credit card companies under the guise of helpful blog trying to help their readers.

Thanks for the heads-up about Ben “Lucky” Schlappig.

TomC
TomC

I’m fine with a site that has affiliate links, but their marketing of the cards needs to be transparent. TPG has a lot of affiliate links, but it is pretty obvious when he is pumping up the benefits of a card that is linked and not trying to force action with scare tactics. Lucky (Shifty) already did a scare “sign-up promo ending” blog post with the Citi Premier card, and we’ll see if he is doing with the Arrival+ too. I don’t trust the guy.

James B.
James B.

It is obvious to experienced gamers that TPG is pumping his affliate links. But for newbies to the game it may not be as obvious.

yana
yana

totally agreed. I don’t trust that guy either.

Mark
Mark

Doctor should be protecting his customers from such parasites.

Bill
Bill

Here’s another DP. Similar to other comments, …I applied last night and was denied due to too many accounts opened up in the past 24 months. I’ve got a high credit score (~800) and am at 6/24. The rep checked with her supervisor and said that Barclay just instituted a policy on the Arrival+ card recently where they automatically deny anyone who has 6+ new accounts opened up in the past 24 months.

Charles
Charles

Well – I definitely have more than 6 – so this could explain by Declined status.

ryan yoshiyama
ryan yoshiyama

Can anyone else confirm if this is true?

Ken
Ken

Read through the comments, there are plenty of people being declined for too many cards.

Graham
Graham

Interesting DP, I had this card previously but cancelled it about a year or so ago. Applied yesterday and was denied. Called recon and they cited “too many new accounts in the past 24 months.” Sounds a bit like 5/24 language from Chase, has anyone else had a similar experience?

TU score is ~780 which is what Barclays has pulled for me in the past and I don’t currently have any other cards issued by Barclays.

Charles
Charles

Mine went to Pending. 1 Barclarys Card approved (July 2017). Might have been a long shot though the 6 month rule I’ve read about doesn’t seem to be hard and fast. On the plus side, the TU credit hit was picked up by Credit Karma immediately and sent me an alert.

MoreSun
MoreSun

Mine did too a month ago. By calling recon I found I was being put through the security id process. I had to snail mail in an ID Thief’s Dream Kit of info but they approved me after they got it. (Which I found a bit hilarious considering I have an Aviator with them…)
….If I had waited for the letter it would have been a week and a half before I knew they needed docs. I called a couple days after my tracking data showed they received the docs and they pulled them up on the phone and approved the app. If I had waited I don’t know how long my docs would have waited for review. I got my card a week and a half later.

Charles
Charles

Online check status now says “Declined”. So… sounds like it is a no go.

MoreSun
MoreSun

Bummer! Yeah mine never said that.

Highsky
Highsky

Applied, went to pending.

Clicked the link to check the status, it was declined.

Called 866-408-4064, told that I opened too many accounts in the past 24 months.

I asked how many, he said 10.

I asked to be escalated to a supervisor, he placed me on a brief hold, came back and said that I actually opened 15 accounts, definitely no.

3 months ago I applied for the red aviator, it was approved with no issue. I did not apply for any cards since then.

Darv
Darv

Talked to supervisor. Hard coded for the Arrival+ to decline if certain number of credit cards opened over past 24 months, no way to get to approval. He mentioned it is a strategy because people game the rewards, his words.

mmm@gmail.com
mmm@gmail.com

It seems they have come to know that people have been gaming this card. It is matter of time, either they will remove the bonus or make it much harder to obtain. I have milked this card pretty good in last 2 years.

Olympia
Olympia

Add me to the slaughter list. Auto denied. TU 835 and 2 inquires in 24. Have three Barclays cards I don’t use so I’m sure that didn’t help.

Ken
Ken

Wow, denied with only 2 new in 24.

Rab
Rab

It is not about the inquiries. He must have opened a lot of accounts in the past 24 months.
Usually TU has very few inquiries since no one uses it.

Ken
Ken

Maybe he can fill us in on his new accounts since TU 2 pulls doesn’t really help. I didn’t see TU till now.

Electroman
Electroman

I guess that’s true for most people. Here in the Upper Midwest TU is my most-pulled bureau by far. Local credit unions, even car dealerships pull it. The main retail banks here (Chase, US Bank and Wells Fargo) all pull TU around here. Chase sometimes pulls EXP as well, those cads.

NinjaX
NinjaX

what is your breakdown of x/6, x/12, x/24? its not about your TU inquiries. ur getting confused.

Ben
Ben

Add another to the list of denials because of too many accounts in last 24 months. 17/24 on TU. Only a few recent inquiries.

Drew
Drew

Another automatic denial — reason to be sent, but am at 5/24.

captainsave
captainsave

Was approved for my 2nd arrival but 1st closed acct is still showing in login. I dont think it’d be remove before the 90 days MSR. Anyone got the 2nd bonus while the closed acct still appear in login?

Mike
Mike

Yes, you’ll be fine.
Were you auto approved? How many new accounts?

Alli
Alli

How do you redeem the points you get for the signup bonus? Do they transfer like URs?

William Charles

They don’t transfer like URs, you redeem them against travel charges you make with the card.

NinjaX
NinjaX

u shouldve just said yes…

lingua
lingua

another winning comment. keep up the great work.

William Charles

I hate giving out wrong info, it didn’t cost me anything apart from a bit of spare time to reply to the comment.

NinjaX
NinjaX

ur just too honest man…

William Charles

=)

Myname
Myname

Having the worst luck this past month, despite 800+ scores, no negatives but lol/24 (like most folks). Declined for 3 in a row – Barclays Arrival, second Merrill+, and now the new BOA Travel card. The last one hurt 🙁

NinjaX
NinjaX

what is your breakdown of x/6, x/12, x/24?

NinjaX
NinjaX

Doc. I think you need to put some additional notes in your 6/24 claim. I dont believe in it yet. Altho it maybe being implemented half ass right now, but I have not seen enough proof yet and its too premature. Many DPs are inconsistent and people are just fixated on x/24. Thats not helpful.

We need more breakdowns of x/6, x/12, x/24 to get more DPs. There are pple with over 6/24 getting approved just fine.

NinjaX
NinjaX

just to add, right now, people should just roll the dice and try. it maybe a wasted HP, but the denials are not consistent enough to claim 6/24. plenty of DP for approvals.

until we see some serious consistent denials of 6/24 just like the chase 5/24, we should just note a word of caution. maybe in a few weeks, A+ will hard code 6/24. who knows.

William Charles

Done, I think I went a bit too negative at the start because I was annoyed other blogger sweren’t even mentioning it.

NinjaX
NinjaX

nice doc. yes, i agree with u. we rather have abundance of caution instead of none at all right? i appreciate ur response and the additional notes. thank u man!

William Charles

No problem

mark
mark

Me and the spouse were approved for the card. I have had many Barclays over last two years and recent Barclays were closed about a month ago. I’m definitely over 5/6 cards in 24 months. Must have been lucked out.

NinjaX
NinjaX

appreciate the DP. can you breakdowns x/6, x/12, x/24. would be really helpful.

mark
mark

Me and the spouse were approved for the card. I have had many Barclays over last two years and recent Barclays were closed about a month ago. I’m definitely over 5/6 cards in 24 months. Must have been lucked out. Merrill Lynch is not bending.

Seniorsave
Seniorsave

Just applied and went to review. When i check the status i got a message “Currently we are unable to offer you a credit card issued by Barclays Bank Delaware. Details on why we could not make you a credit offer will be mailed to you.” Did barclay blacklisted me?

NinjaX
NinjaX

u need to recon dude. if you think such a statement means ur blacklisted, u need to read more. recon or wait for the letter, but its best to recon ASAP before any TC changes become permanent.

Jonathan
Jonathan

You’re considering applying? You’re under 6/24!? Bro!? Do you even churn???
😂

NinjaX
NinjaX

its clear they dont. because they dont even science…

NinjaX
NinjaX

oh btw. 6/24 n00bs should be going for other barclaycards at the same time to limit a wasted HP. altho i would also argue there are other cards to get before making ur credit reports into swiss cheese and wasting on A+.

Ozzie
Ozzie

811-822 CK FICO. 2 TU HP. Never had a Barclay card in my name but authorized user on wife’s card. Initially Pending but checked Application status a few minutes later and shows Denied.

NinjaX
NinjaX

can you breakdowns x/6, x/12, x/24? would be really helpful.

kirk
kirk

instant approval. *got a sockdrawered Commence card with them. (RIP Sallie Mae)

TU inquiry appeared right away (wallethub & CK)
819 fico8 score; 1 TU inquiry 3/03/16

accounts: 2/6; 2/12; 4/24 *could be 5/24 if an account opened on 9/10/15 is still considered today/this month 9/18/17(?). I also didn’t add Blispay as it only reports to EX and not TU/EQ.

NinjaX
NinjaX

why are you not hitting chase hard?

kirk
kirk

coz I’m newb and dunno how to M.ath and S.cience yet. :/
also I don’t travel much. once a year of int’l travel and that’s about it.

with Blispay I’ll be at 5/24 on EX. I think that disqualifies me.

NinjaX
NinjaX

yea, well ur not the only n00b here and there are many more coming. just make sure you read more.

Trippy
Trippy

You should really write an article for low card number owners what to do. As you can see there are quite a few of us 😀

kirk
kirk

btw is Alliant SSL (installment loan) part of the count?

Ed
Ed

Why the rush on this card and hysteria from certain blogs (dansdeals started and even censoring critical commemts)? This card isn’t going away. It may drop back to 40k for a while like it does from time to time and then for a big promo bump up to 50k later. Of course people are seeing stricter criteria since they are getting a huge windfall of applications right now from the blog articles saying “its ending…!!!!” You should see some of the outlandish clickbait titles.

William Charles

We’re just letting readers know, I agree some of the other titles are excessive.

HolyTiger
HolyTiger

Applied yesterday at 800+ FICO and lol/24 with no Barclay cards ever. Card went Pending/Review. Called into recon a few hours later and was told “Due to your number of recent accounts we are unable to offer you an account at this time. We would like to first see you work with these accounts. Please feel free to apply again at a later date.”

Seems to be a hard rule to me

After the call, applied for Aviator Red. Instant approval, no additional pull.

NinjaX
NinjaX

can you breakdowns x/6, x/12, x/24? lol/24 doesnt help.

Isaac K.
Isaac K.

Instantly denied. Call recon and was told explicitly “too many cards opened in 24 months.” I asked how many is too many. “You have more than 6 in 24 months and need some time off before applying again.”

NinjaX
NinjaX

can you breakdowns x/6, x/12, x/24?

FLL
FLL

A totally contrary data point.

Did husband’s application for A+ , instant approval with same CL as his existing Aviator Red converted from an US opened in 2013. 10 min later applied the Aviator Red, instant declined.

He is at 5/24 or more.

Those of you who got instant denied of A+ then got instant approval on Aviator Red, do you have existing Aviator Red in your account?

Lela
Lela

I thought I just read in the “things you should know about Barclays” post that they will not allow multiples of the same card and require 6 mos between opening a new card of the same kind as you had before. I think this is your issue, not 6/24.

Colin
Colin

Interesting datapoint from my wife:

Arrival+: Instant Denial.
Aviator Red: Approved after pending.

However, she called recon, and was approved for the Arrival+ after moving credit from another card. She is at LOL/24. However, she hasn’t opened any new accounts since April, 2017.

NinjaX
NinjaX

can you breakdowns x/6, x/12, x/24? lol/24 doesnt help.

Colin
Colin

I mean, I just said that she hasn’t gotten any cards since April. So that’s 0/6, I don’t know the x/12 or x/24, but well over the 6/24 stated in the article. I know for sure it’s over 12/24, and over 4/12.

NinjaX
NinjaX

ok. 0/6 was probably key. u still got approval with 12+/24.

Gus
Gus

You say “Update 9/18/17: According to DansDeals this offer will end tomorrow…” but when you click on the link “DansDeals” it says
“Ooops… Error 404
Sorry! The page you are looking for does not exist.”

Also, it looks like the offer hasn’t ended yet.

cm

2017-09-20T00:30 MT — offer seems to be expired. The landing page still works, still showing 50k, but clicking the apply button Apply Now button doesn’t produce the application form no more, but instead says:

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However, doing the “click here”, it brings you to their page with a list of all the cards, and the A+ @ 50k is still there (not sure if it even was before), however, following the links to apply, gives the same message again.

cm

2017-09-20T00:30 MT — offer seems to be expired. The landing page still works, still showing 50k, but clicking the apply button Apply Now button doesn’t produce the application form no more, but instead says:

«
Barclaycard

Thank you for your interest in a Barclaycard Arrival Plus Mastercard.

Unfortunately, this offer has expired.

We apologize for this inconvenience.

Please click here to check out current offers.
»

However, doing the “click here”, it brings you to their page with a list of all the cards, and the A+ @ 50k is still there (not sure if it even was before), however, following the links to apply, gives the same message again.

Gus
Gus

I stand corrected. I just saw it still on the main CC page, but I now see what “cm” above sees.

Lela
Lela

At 11:30 Pacific time I found the link in this post to lead to an offer expired notice, however at 11:45 PT the Barclays website page still had A+ listed and I completed an application. I’m about 1/6 3/12, 6/24, and one inquiry for a cc processing service, before this card, so I guess I’m an excellent test. FICO 820-830, changes if I pay cards before or after cycle end.

Since Barclays pulls TU, aren’t we actually interested in people’s X/24 on TU, not overall??

Lela
Lela

All links seem to cycle to expired offer at this point.

Lela
Lela

Bugger- got denied in a letter due to not applying in time. Recon stuck with their ET, as they are based in Delaware. No credit pull.

NinjaX
NinjaX

>> Since Barclays pulls TU, aren’t we actually interested in people’s X/24 on TU, not overall??

not really. x/6, x/12, x/24 are related to all NEW ACCOUNTS that how up on your report. some banks dont report to all three but most do. so it doesnt matter TU or not. a new account will show up and thats whats critical. barclays will see all ur new accounts. altho its possible TU has less new accounts than other CRAs because a bank didnt report to TU, but thats rare.

Lela
Lela

Thank you NinjaX for this important education!!

LP
LP

Wife applied last week and approved at 5/24, 4/12, 2/6. So 6 rule not contradicted; i.e. 5/24 still works.

SamSimon
William Charles

Thanks, updated post.

kirk
kirk

app and approved on 9/19 and already got an alert from EX today 9/21! wow, barclaycard reports fast!
*possibly reported to TU and EQ also.

Kapni
Kapni

DP: Got denied for Barclay Arrival + @ 6/24. Got the mail with denial reason as too many open accounts. But today I got a targeted offer for 40,000 miles, application deadline, early November. Thinking of applying. Will update if I apply and it gets approved.

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