Don’t Hit that 5x NBA Card Too Hard…

Just a quick update on the BBVA NBA card which is currently earning 5x everywhere.

Problems

Readers have pointed out numerous problems with the idea of earning 5x everywhere in a scalable way.

  • BBVA is freezing accounts after large purchases and holding them up for review. Every single report we’ve seen so far indicates that large purchases are triggering an account freeze. Even just a single large purchase of over $1,000 has triggered the freeze for some. The credit card is put under a 48-hour review. In actuality, it often takes longer as they don’t count weekends.
  • There appears to be a $5,000 daily limit on purchases. This is particularly annoying for purchasing high amounts of Amex gift cards. The only option being to create multiple smaller orders which, of course, isn’t optimal. One reader reports being able to make more than $5,000 of purchases in one day, though it was split up into multiple smaller transactions.
  • There are a couple of reports (1, 2) of BBVA reps claiming that the 5x offer only applies for swiped transactions and not for online purchases. The wording on the website is, “5x on all purchases” and it seems to include online transactions as well. That said, there is a small risk here, particularly when purchasing gift cards online (e.g. Amex gift cards). If the points don’t post automatically, it will be hard to fight for the points since they can quote the Terms which state that cash-equivalents are not eligible for points. [See also this comment from Kenny.]

Another interesting thing is that one reader mentions getting written confirmation from BBVA that the 5x rewards goes through June 20, that’s two days longer than I  heard from the CSR. We haven’t gotten any more clarity on the issue yet.

Options Going Forward

The biggest issue here, aside from the natural dislike of getting shutdown, is that you’ll lose all rewards. So if we’d consider it 50-50 on getting shutdown, we couldn’t value those rewards at more than 2.5%. More likely, I think, is that the accounts won’t get shutdown and will eventually be reinstated. If anyone knows of actual shutdowns, let us know in the comments.

One possibility is to try doing multiple small transactions with the card. It’s unclear if this will trigger a freeze or possibly they only get tipped off by large transactions. We haven’t yet seen any reports of freezes for purchases of less than $1,000 and it’s possible that the large transaction is what’s triggering the review.

We mentioned the idea of prepaying bills such as cellular and insurance as a way of racking up spend on the card with 5x rewards. This approach would seem safe since it would be hard for them to justify shutting you down for it for such a thing. Even if there’s a temporary freeze it should hopefully end okay. Maybe better to do multiple smaller transactions over the next 10 days, if possible.

Final Thoughts

Ultimately, it’s probably not worth putting huge charges on the card. Better use it for as much ordinary spend as we can over the next 10-12 days and hopefully get some value from the ordinary charges. This will allow us to get the $100 signup bonus and hopefully an additional moderate value during the promotional periods of 5x rewards.

I’m honestly surprised that their making problems so quickly; usually it takes time for them to see what’s going on and to try stopping it or limiting it. (How many years did it take Amex until they limited the Old Blue Cash card?) It’s possible that the freezes are just routine BBVA practice unrelated to the 5x aspect.

Who knows?

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PuddinTang
PuddinTang (@guest_243913)
April 8, 2016 22:41

Application link is down online, have to go in branch or apply over phone.
Anyone able to find a live link?

William Charles
Admin
April 9, 2016 03:56

Can’t find any, looks like they added a $5k spending cap per event as well.

Ben
Ben (@guest_222229)
February 3, 2016 18:17

All Star weekend approaches…planning to pay my mortgage with Plastiq/BBVA NBA then. Did anyone actually use Plastiq last year? I only see speculation about it in previous comments.

star
star (@guest_222255)
February 3, 2016 19:15

IIRC, online transactions don’t count, only swiped ones do?

Mike
Mike (@guest_213925)
January 4, 2016 07:42

Can we use serve loads to complete the minimum spend to get the bonus for this card?

Dave
Dave (@guest_169344)
September 8, 2015 22:53

Great, thank you guys!

Dave
Dave (@guest_168945)
September 8, 2015 00:53

I am still interested in getting this card even under the assumption that my account may be frozen at some point. I understand that when amex puts you under financial review, they freeze all of your accounts, but it is not clear from what I have read if the same is true for this particular card. I have several other amex cards, and was wondering if they will be frozen or shutdown along with this one. Anyone have any experience with this?

star
star (@guest_169269)
September 8, 2015 18:38

When I was frozen/suspended by BBVA, it did not affect any of my other Amex cards.

stvr
stvr (@guest_138542)
June 26, 2015 16:35

Did anybody end up getting the 5x for AGC? I’m still waiting on the other 4x for sending money via PayPal…

Eric
Eric (@guest_136406)
June 18, 2015 11:40

Phil,

Do you mean if you initiate it from the bank or from BBVA’s site?

Phill the Points All Around
Phill the Points All Around (@guest_136638)
June 19, 2015 07:47

@Eric. Through BBVA’s site.

Superworm
Superworm (@guest_135606)
June 16, 2015 08:34

I got the card (30K CL) a few weeks before the finals and seasoned it with a lot of daily spend and a few bigger purchases (knowing full well the 1x at the time was barely a wash) before the finals. I’ve been able to hit it pretty hard since without any issues. Posted a couple payments and I expect to put about 30k on this card during the promotional period. I plan on using it occasionally for some daily non-bonus spend to keep it active and HOPEFULLY repeat again next year. Sorry to hear so many had issues.

Spgbus
Spgbus (@guest_134718)
June 14, 2015 22:55

Anyone got CL released after PayBill directly after logging into BBVA account and paying from external payment account?

Curtis
Curtis (@guest_134715)
June 14, 2015 22:40

Wife is STILL frozen since Wed – this sucks….

Curtis
Curtis (@guest_135044)
June 15, 2015 13:48

And still frozen.

Everyone please complain here.

https://www.facebook.com/bbvacompass/posts/10153049740297893

Aahz
Aahz (@guest_135184)
June 15, 2015 17:31

Sorry your wife’s account is frozen, but not “everyone” has something to complain about.

BBVA and this promotion have been VERY good to me as well as many, many others.

Curtis
Curtis (@guest_135185)
June 15, 2015 17:32

Meant those that are still frozen like us.

You are extremely lucky…

Curtis
Curtis (@guest_135673)
June 16, 2015 11:36

Finally unlocked! Only took 6 days…. !