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Joanna Walters
Joanna Walters (@guest_1831379)
April 15, 2024 19:21

Cannot remember my e-mail.

January 15 2024:

Novo $7500

Bonus posted $600 – 4/5/24

Jimmy
Jimmy (@guest_1829474)
April 11, 2024 14:19

I missed the $600 but the $400 would be better than nothing. I’m in North Florida (only FL branches are around Tampa area) and had no luck with opening online, partly cause their ID verification app really sucks. Tried opening over the phone and everything was going well until the somewhat arrogant banker claimed my lease agreement was no good for address verification because it doesn’t include language regarding the fact that my utilities (electric and water) are included in the monthly rent. This sounds like complete nonsense IMO but I couldn’t get past the sleazy bank loan slinger. Literally wasted almost two hours of my day on the phone. Any feedback or ideas how to get around this is appreciated.

Nathan
Nathan (@guest_1828041)
April 8, 2024 21:55

Another successful upgrade DP:
12/8: Opened as Smart Advantage
1/2: $21xx Real DD
1/3: $12xx TreasuryDirect I-Bond (leftover from US Bank bonus)
2/1: $16xx Real DD
3/1: $16xx Real DD
3/18: Upgraded to Premier/Relationship via phone
4/1: $16xx Real DD
4/8 +$600 PROMOTIONAL INCENTIVE (pending)

Total DDs ~$8400

Will downgrade soon to avoid fee just in case, then close.

Thank you to Ricki for coming up with the upgrade theory that got me an extra $200

Nate nate
Nate nate (@guest_1828104)
April 9, 2024 00:54

Almost same timeline for me. How long do we need to keep the account open to avoid an early closure fee?

Nathan
Nathan (@guest_1828161)
April 9, 2024 09:07

I have it down that ETF is 90 days from account opening, which we are now past. I might keep it open for a bit just to keep the churn available for the future

Dave
Dave (@guest_1829037)
April 10, 2024 17:10

What do you mean by “keep the churn available for the future”? Does keeping the account open for longer make you more eligible for future bonuses or something?

Gadget - Bank Bonus Geek 🔗
Gadget - Bank Bonus Geek 🔗 (@guest_1829067)
April 10, 2024 18:01

Currently, the terms state you need to be without the checking account for 12 months from last CLOSING. Last enrollment/opening, last bonus, is not an issue. By doing so, they incentivizing closing the account ASAP.

The checking offer is not available for existing BMO personal checking customers (including signers on joint accounts) or those who have closed a BMO personal checking account within the past 12 months.”

Mike
Mike (@guest_1829980)
April 12, 2024 13:09

Thanks for the information. I didn’t know this before I saw your post. I got the $600 a couple of weeks ago and I downgraded the account to no-fee Smart Advantage Checking account immediately after the bonus is posted. Now I am thinking to close it asap. Since I just converted the account , do I need to keep it for 90 days in order to avoid the early termination fee? thanks.

Gadget - Bank Bonus Geek 🔗
Gadget - Bank Bonus Geek 🔗 (@guest_1829998)
April 12, 2024 13:24

No, you don’t need to keep it another 90 days since the account was not new. The ETF is only applicable for the first 90 days of having the account open… (and probably not enforced on a zero balance account anyway)

Keep in mind, if you get yourself on the “naughty list”, you might not get approved the next time around though. Or, they might not be offering a checking bonus next year. There are no guarantees in this game.

I usually wait until at least the next statement after a bonus posts, but people are going to do what they see fit. Have at it. @guest_1829980

Nathan
Nathan (@guest_1828189)
April 9, 2024 10:13

When I upgraded, BMO mailed me an account disclosure. Glanced at it before tossing and noticed that in the Monthly Maintenance Fee and Waivers section it states “Beginning in the third calendar month after your Account is opened or your Account type is changed to a BMO Relationship Checking Account, we charge this fee…”

Seems like there has been some speculation of whether upgrading resets the fee timer and for how long, but here its written in the terms

GG
GG (@guest_1828243)
April 9, 2024 11:53

Even better – “For example: An Account opened or changed to BMO Relationship Checking in January will not be charged a monthly maintenance fee in January and February. In March we will charge this fee if you do not meet any one of the following: • the minimum daily Ledger Balance in this Account is $10,000 or more for the month of February; or • you have met the $25,000 Monthly Combined Balance for the month of February.” So you should be good for a couple extra months.

GG
GG (@guest_1828245)
April 9, 2024 11:56

My experience was nearly identical to Nathan , except 2-3 days ahead on opening and on switching. I also used real DD’s. So, another confirmation that the upgrade works to get the 600 bonus. Thanks Doc and everyone.

Erin
Erin (@guest_1827953)
April 8, 2024 17:56

Opened 12.08

Erin
Erin (@guest_1827955)
April 8, 2024 17:57

wise Payroll. 600 paid today 🙂

Gadget - Bank Bonus Geek 🔗
Gadget - Bank Bonus Geek 🔗 (@guest_1827905)
April 8, 2024 16:15

P2 DP:
12/07/2023: Opened the Relationship Checking for the 120 Day/$600 promo (evening)
12/08/2023: 1st statement start date (Day 1, I assume)
12/12/2023: Funded with $25.
01/03/2024: Treasury Direct I-Bond cash out $3,3xx “PPD APA TREAS 310 MISC PAY”
02/06/2024: Treasury Direct T-Bill cash out $4,200 “PPD APA TREAS 310 MISC PAY”
02/27/2024: Downgraded to Smart Advantage via Chat
03/21/2024: Upgraded to Relationship Checking via Chat
04/05/2024: Day 120 – Also, statement closes.
04/08/2024: +$600 Promotional Incentive Pending

Pulled funds via Fidelity Brokerage about a week after the deposits, leaving $100 for “incidentals/fees”.

Zero monthly fees charged, so I can confirm fee counter reset by changing account types, even for just a few weeks. Chat in online banking (on upper menu bar, look for chat bubbles symbol,💬🗨️) was done w/o P2 “involvement”, so it was easy to downgrade/upgrade. Once bonus fully posts, will downgrade again.

Used I-Bond, and a T-Bill, vs. C of I. You have at least 3 months to get the DD’s done, so there is no rush.

mo
mo (@guest_1829469)
April 11, 2024 14:07

is the promo to upgrade to Relationship Checking still active? I just chatted with BMO and they said no.

Gadget - Bank Bonus Geek 🔗
Gadget - Bank Bonus Geek 🔗 (@guest_1829473)
April 11, 2024 14:18
  mo

Yes. Technically the promo is not for “upgrading”, it’s for opening a new account and completing the requirements.

Greg
Greg (@guest_1827901)
April 8, 2024 16:06

Anyone tried getting 2nd fee waived? I opened my account on 12/04/23 and was charged $25 fee on 3/5 and then 4/5. The first one was already waived and bonus posted just today. I didn’t want to downgrade before I saw the bonus.

mo
mo (@guest_1829463)
April 11, 2024 13:50

I did.

mo
mo (@guest_1829471)
April 11, 2024 14:09

I did

Lego
Lego (@guest_1831708)
April 16, 2024 16:27
  mo

Mo, what did you tell them to waive the 2nd fee? I just had my first waiver and they said it’s a 1 time courtesy waiver.

Eric 🔗
Eric 🔗 (@guest_1831724)
April 16, 2024 17:04

Lego,

Even if you are fortunate enough to get a response from mo to your question, it’s likely that their response won’t help you.

Greg made the mistake of asking the community if anyone had tried to get a 2nd fee waived when I’m sure that they really wanted to know if anyone had succeeded in getting a 2nd fee waived, which is unlikely.

Gadget - Bank Bonus Geek 🔗
Gadget - Bank Bonus Geek 🔗 (@guest_1831748)
April 16, 2024 18:00

Most banks only offer a one-time courtesy waiver, but I have seen some say once per year. I want to say that was Discover or Chase, but don’t quote me on that.

Only seen one bank offer more than one per year, unless the error was their fault.

https://www.doctorofcredit.com/az-tx-ia-il-wi-co-nm-mt-ca-mn-ks-mo-bank-trust-600-checking-bonus/#comment-1649208

Ivy
Ivy (@guest_1827796)
April 8, 2024 12:55

12/03/23 account opened
03/08/24 $25 charged and waived
04/08/24 $600 received and account switched to smart advantage

Fi
Fi (@guest_1827896)
April 8, 2024 15:54

Was your $600 pending on 4/8 or was it cleared before you switch the account?

Ivy
Ivy (@guest_1827906)
April 8, 2024 16:25
  Fi

It’s pending but included in the available balance and I pulled out from Sofi too, lol. CS said the switch would be effective tomorrow.

ThyKingdom
ThyKingdom (@guest_1825586)
April 4, 2024 01:43

Can confirm Wise with Payroll memo works.
Showed up as “PPD Wise Inc Payroll”

bicyclep
bicyclep (@guest_1824677)
April 2, 2024 15:43
  • Dec1st 2023 opened personal and biz acc w min deposit in branch since online was impossible. (120days on each to comply with the requirements)
  • I complied w everything by day 110 in both accounts (wise in personal 7.5k in 3 different payments <change from smart to relationship checkig day 116>, in biz: 10x amazon reloads and 5200usd deposited around day 24 to bring my average above the mandatory 4k)
  • April 1st 2024 (yesterday) 2 bonuses posted! 600 + 400 = 1k usd!

Sweet!
#Questions:
i- can I now change back to Smart to save the 25usd? as I said above: <change from smart to relationship checkig day 116>
ii- can I transfer all the money out and close my accounts without risking anything? I do hate this bank btw…

Gadget - Bank Bonus Geek 🔗
Gadget - Bank Bonus Geek 🔗 (@guest_1824691)
April 2, 2024 16:00

Yes & yes.

Eric 🔗
Eric 🔗 (@guest_1824594)
April 2, 2024 13:45

I just downgraded to a Smart Advantage checking account via chat, or “BMO Assist”, as they call it. I either didn’t notice the “BMO Assist” icon last month or it wasn’t there because chat may have been closed as mangorunner speculated.

I’m betting on the former as I almost didn’t notice the icon again. I just assumed that the “chat” option would be located under “Contact & support” but it was not.

Anyway, the icon is to the left of the “Contact & support” icon near the top right of the page. Hopefully this will help someone else find it as it a lot more convenient to chat than to call in.

I was told by the rep that although the downgrade happened immediately, the website won’t show the change until the following day.

Lefty
Lefty (@guest_1831753)
April 16, 2024 18:12

Why do you downgrade the account rather than closing after the bonus posts? I’ve always closed BMO a few days after the bonus to avoid the $25 fee. Given interest rates are around 5% I’m probably just going to pay a $25 fee after the one-time waiver because I’m not going to keep $10k in the account.

vc
vc (@guest_1831781)
April 16, 2024 19:12

I think that ppl do this to not get banned. Bank may think that you just got the acct for the bonus.

Eric 🔗
Eric 🔗 (@guest_1832197)
April 17, 2024 15:59

Generally, I like to keep accounts open for at least 6 months before closing them. In this case, I haven’t decided how long that I will keep it open so I figured it made sense to downgrade to avoid having a 2nd fee post.

I noticed that you wrote “I’ve always closed BMO”, which seems to imply that you’ve done a BMO bonus several times. Is that the case?