Update 7/1/21: Three things I see on this Paypal FAQ page which seems different than what I wrote in the original post:
- It states a rate of 2.89% + $0.49 for payments without chargeback protection. That’s different from the 2.59% rate stated on the other page.
- Indicates that there is no fee change for family and friend payments. I had suggested in the original post that family and friends payments with credit card might go down to the new 2.59% rate.
- It suggests a rate of 2.89% + $0.49 for sellers who are paid by buyers via a direct link. That’s different than the 2.99% rate mentioned below.
It might be the difference is whether the Paypal account is a personal account or a business one. At this point I’m way too confused to try to make sense of this all, just putting it out there for anyone interested.
Original Post:
PayPal is increasing their seller fees on August 2, 2021. Their current seller fees and website processing fees are 2.90% + $.30. After August 2nd, the fees will change from $.30 to $.49 and from 2.90% to either 2.59%, 2.99%, or 3.49%.
Business Pricing | FAQ | Old Fee StructureÂ
Here’s my understanding of when these fees apply in layman’s terms, please correct me if there are any mistakes here:
- 3.49% + $.49 for a website who accepts PayPal. If you have a website which offers PayPal at checkout, your fees will increase from 2.90% + $.30 to 3.49% + $.49.
- Large websites such as Walmart.com, Bestbuy.com, etc, likely have a special fee structure and isn’t necessarily changing, so I don’t have any reason to believe that these large websites will stop accepting PayPal. Smaller websites, on the other hand, might drop the PayPal option in favor of cheaper alternatives.
- 2.99% + $.49 for a regular seller. This will apply if a buyer sends a seller money from within their PayPal account as payment for goods or services. This is an increase of .09% and $.19 per transaction.
- 2.59% + $.49 for a regular seller when there’s no chargeback protection.
- I’d guess (?) that each seller will get to decide whether they want chargeback protection or not. Thus, in theory, these new changes are a net positive for a seller who – for whatever reason – does not need chargeback protection.
- I wonder if this means that for our purposes there’s actually a huge net benefit here – if you ‘send money to family and friends’ and choose to pay with a credit card with a fee, presumably that would go under the ‘no chargeback protection’ provision and our fees will now be reduced from 2.90% to 2.59%.
- 1.99% + $0.49 for confirmed charities. I believe this is instead of the current rate of 2.20% + $.30. Overall likely a net reduction in fees for charities.
- For in-person payments there are also some changes, but I’m not entirely clear on what services PayPal offers in that regard and what the fee changes are on that end, so I’ll leave that for others to clarify.
Do credit card issuers tolerate using “family and friend payments” to meet minimum spend? I pay my landlord via PayPal and it seems like good idea.
Echoing everyone’s disgust with Paypal. I’ve been locked out because the 2FA goes to a deactivated phone line. I’ve tried numerous times and different channels trying to get their support to understand and resolve. Absolutely useless. Please eat their lunch, Stripe!
i can’t stand paypal anymore, completely useless account, why would anyone still use them? i think they give you 1099 INT on all rewards as well if i don’t recall it wrong
I use Paypal to donate to my church and I also cover the fees so the church isn’t paying that. The drop to 1.99% is a strong positive. Using Discover bonus category, USAlliance 3%, or Citi Double Cash all cover the fees and then some.
This! As a charity we are now eligible for 1.99% fee plus 49cents, which is better than 2.20% plus 30cents when accepting payments from our customers. We absorb the fees but boy I tell you this is a game-changer for us. Still, unfortunate for other sellers on the platform.
someone can chargeback up to 6 months later long after your tracking disappears as well: fuck paypal
I’ve had this happen. Now if I’m using USPS I’ll print and download a copy of the delivery. I use FedEx for high ticket items.
“At this point I’m way too confused to try to make sense of this all, just putting it out there for anyone interested.”
Wasn’t it written that way so lawyers can have a field day if you can afford one to take on peepal
either way, fuck paypal.
Paypal is not dependable they dont paypal doses not pay out till they good and ready dont belove thoses game you play and play when you reach there pay out you will not get anything out them you can do everything to get there attention and then stoll nothing somebody needs fo something iam getting a lawyer $ 2000.and some is no game you play you paid
English, please.
I demand to speak with the manager of Paypal about these changes!
What ever !! They remove them there scamers !! False adviseing No pay outs they dont even let youi play with out stoping every 3 mins. Its takeing me to get $200 pay out cause they slow down its been a month on $195
Are you having a stroke? Please, seek medical attention.
I always feel protected as a buyer with paypal. I don’t want sellers scamming me on ebay or any other unknown websites
And your credit card already offers you great purchase protection, making Paypal redundent.
I have to agree with you @Dylan
Which card? All mine took that benefit away