Update 5: Card is now live, full details here.
Update 4: We have another leak. Some additional information:
- There will be NO sign up bonus on this card
- It won’t be possible to product change existing Arrival/Arrival Plus cards to this card initially. They want to see how many people will apply without a sign up bonus/possibility of conversion. If enough people complain/numbers are low enough they will allow conversions. This seems especially strange considering the terms of the Arrival Premier state:
- You may not be eligible for this offer if you currently have or previously had an account with us in the Arrival, Arrival Plus and/or Arrival Premier programs.
- Card will be launched April 2018
Update 3: We now have another leak. This confirms most details we already knew, including the ability to transfer points to travel partners, annual spending bonuses and more. Also confirmation the card earns 2x on all purchases with no caps. Sadly no information on who the transfer partners are or what the sign up bonus will be.
Update 2: Frequent Miler is reporting that transfers to travel partners are confirmed via an unnamed source. Barclaycard currently has co-branded partnerships with the following travel partners:
- American Airlines
- Frontier Airlines
- Hawaiian Airlines
- Choice hotels
They have also had partnerships with Aer Lingus, China Airlines, and Icelandair in the past. For me the big one will be whether points transfer to American Airlines or not. Citi has been unable to secure American Airlines as a transfer partner for their Citi ThankYou point program largely due to cost so it will be interesting to see if Barclays is able to secure AA or not. I’d love to have Wyndham as a transfer partner as all their properties cost a flat 15,000 points per night.
Hopefully existing Barclaycard Arrival Plus points transfer over to the travel partners and even Uber points too (4x transferable points on dining purchases? Thank you very much).
Update: Multiple customer service representatives are now confirming that this card will be launched. Here’s what some readers have been told so far
- Annual fee of $150
- Global entry credit
- Annual spend bonuses:
- 15,000 bonus points after $15,000 in spend
- An additional 10,000 bonus points after an additional $10,000 in annual spend
The annual spend bonus is ongoing and is in addition to the sign up bonus (no clue what this is as of yet). If anybody is able to find out any additional information please share it in the comments below.
Original post: File this under highly speculative, but reddit user Joelvis2000 reports calling in to ask about the annual fee on the Barclaycard Arrival Plus. The customer service representative apparently said that there is a new version coming out on April 1st called ‘Barclay Arrival Premiere’, apparently requiring spend of $15,000 for a big bonus before following up with “oops, you don’t need to know that.” Keep in mind two things:
- Barclaycard will rebrand to Barclays in April
- Arrival Plus isn’t currently accepting new applications
Barclaycard also talked about the possibility of airline partners sometime in 2018, originally this was in reference to the Barclaycard Uber card but they also mentioned ‘other card products’. Honestly in recent times Barclaycard’s Arrival Plus product has become largely irrelevant apart from when it was offering an increased sign up bonus whereas in the past it was always one of the top recommended cards.
I love these types of rumors, trying to connect the dots and find out information is probably my favorite thing to blog about. I know some readers hate them and this post in particular is highly speculative and could easily be false/early April fools but hopefully people don’t begrudge me this indulgence too much. If anybody has any information they want to share, please get in touch.
It actually also says that : Redeeming miles for travel statement credit offers the best value. So transfer might not be too good either.
So if you can control your yearly spending on this card to be just a little over $15,000 or $25,000, it’s essentially an everyday 3% cashback card even without considering point transfers? I think an everyday 3% cashback card is pretty good, or am I wrong about that?
Quite good especially with transfers. However, when comparing with other cards the lack of sign up bonus need to be taken into account too.
It would be, but keep in mind the $150 annual fee.
New Website layout is live.
No Sign-up bonus!? This one is dead on “Arrival”.
The annual fee will be due in a month. They have been sending email and letter about the product change but nothing in details. Should we cancel it before it gets product changed or keep card?
No sign up bonus means they aren’t that interested in acquiring new customers or even those who already abandon the previous one. Capital One is also 2x on spend and they are easier to work with in order to get credits from travel expenses. With the high annual fee on this new card from Barcs it will nullify most spenders 3x if they get to that spending. Many cards now offer Global Entry as well as lounge access. Who’s bright idea at that company thought this would be a success. Most will stop talking about it now unless they are offering bloggers high referral bonuses to market this. Last I’ll be talking about this card. Wife hasn’t had any Barcs card for awhile and was hoping this card would be her first in a while and now is no longer interested. Moving on now.
Take it easy People.
This is an April Fool’s joke.
It has to be………no business can be this stupid.
I predict the next leak will be a great list of transfer partners (everything that they currently co-brand with, and perhaps more).
Then later, the final leak will be that all of the transfers will be at a rate of 1:0.5, so the 2X earning is really 1X earning for transfer purposes.
And in that case, they would be lucky if they get more than 1 application!
The transfer partners is the whole lynch pin. If they transfer 1:1 to useful partners like Jetblue and AA, this card is a home run even with no signup. If not, this card is a giant pass.
Yep. However, I would add Lufthansa to the mix. The two major airlines missing from the list of Amex, Chase, and Citi transfer partners are American and Lufthansa. It would be great if Barclay added them to this new card.
Aren’t Lufthansa miles worthless?
I don’t understand the logic of no sign-up bonus here. This is the same company that earlier this year offered 60,000 AA miles after 1 purchase on one of their other cards. Now they are suddenly stingy with no sign-up bonus on a card with a higher AF?
This is a low margin card given that it offers 3x miles/points on first $25k annually. It’s also targeting people unlikely to carry a balance/pay fees. With cards like this you need to keep your customer acquisition cost low or you’ll never turn a profit on them.
Offering a sign up bonus doesn’t keep those costs low
should be called “Late Arrival Descend” card. A+ holders not eligible? they think its funny they copy chase sapphire limitations? fucking retards. i hope they read this comment. total idiots.