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bbug1
bbug1 (@guest_568456)
March 10, 2018 08:38

Looks like it’s over. No mention on their website this morning.

Ann
Ann (@guest_568310)
March 9, 2018 16:30

A commenter on depositaccounts.com says “Was just informed by a branch CSR in NJ deal ends today [Friday March 9] at 5pm [Eastern].”

Robert
Robert (@guest_566786)
March 5, 2018 10:55

Does anyone know what are the options on how the interest is paid?

Ann
Ann (@guest_568219)
March 9, 2018 13:42

Monthly checks or compounded in the CD. Must choose when you create the CD and can’t change your choice later.

Nate
Nate (@guest_566565)
March 4, 2018 15:22

It’s not clear above whether you’re saying this is limited to those areas (over and above the eligibility to join credit union, bypass-able with $20 donation).

I don’t see an area limitation on the direct link. Any clarification on this?

Ann
Ann (@guest_568073)
March 9, 2018 02:47

They are denying non-local applicants using free-or-$5 ACC membership, except a few who snuck in the first day. To get approved as a non-local applicant, you can use the $20 Folk Society or $20 Hobby Farmers membership. There are multiple reports of non-local success with those $20 memberships, on other sites.

Frito Pendejo
Frito Pendejo (@guest_566445)
March 3, 2018 21:44

I’ve neved opened a CD. Can you add money over time? Like, can I open with a small amount and add over time like a savings account or is it a fixed amount? I understand the early withdrawal penalty.

Ann
Ann (@guest_566747)
March 5, 2018 04:01

Except when explicitly marketed as an ‘add-on’ CD, no, most CDs are established with a one-time deposit only.

Richard
Richard (@guest_566404)
March 3, 2018 17:23

The 365 day early withdrawal penalty is quite harsh. Pretty much guarantees that you’ll need to leave the funds in for the full 64-month term.

Nina
Nina (@guest_566375)
March 3, 2018 15:22

The funding options listed are the Sharonview account, external bank account or mailing in a check. No credit card funding option.

Orion
Orion (@guest_566360)
March 3, 2018 14:19

I really wouldn’t recommend this to anyone.

If you don’t need to touch the money for over 5 years, you’re far better off putting it into a mix of low cost index ETFs and corporate/muni bonds. Risk adjusted return is above 5% and you get higher liquidity. 5 year time horizon negates any short-term volatility risk.

qmc
qmc (@guest_566383)
March 3, 2018 15:47

How about somebody who absolutely needs to spend the principal in 5-6yrs?

Orion
Orion (@guest_566388)
March 3, 2018 16:00

By that I mean if you have money that you want to keep safe, grow, and be able to use at any time within the next 5 years?

Short term risk free rate is around 2-2.5% currently (2-year treasury just hit 2.25%) – several credit unions have savings/checking accounts at around that rate. That should be your basement rate for any money you currently have sitting around. Core Inflation is around 1.8% so any money you have making less than that is actually losing value over time. I like to divide my money into tranches based on whether they are emergency (no risk), realistic goals (low risk), and aspirational goals (higher risk).

I shoot for returns as follows:
Emergency: 2-2.5%
Realistic goals: 5-6%
Aspirational goals: 10-15%

Kay
Kay (@guest_567867)
March 8, 2018 15:14

Hi Orion, Appreciate if you can list an example or two of a low cost index ETFs, corporate/muni bonds that I can get started on? Thank you!

Brian
Brian (@guest_568551)
March 10, 2018 19:48

A 5 year time horizon does not negate short-term volatility risk. There have been numerous examples in US history where the stock market has lost inflation-adjusted value over 5 years. And if you want a really bad-case example, look at the inflation-adjusted S&P 500 from the late 60s to the early 80s…a total horror show. http://www.multpl.com/inflation-adjusted-s-p-500

4% risk free return on a 64 month CD is incredible, even with the reduced liquidity of a CD. The 5 year treasury rate (equivalent level of risk for equivalent time period) is 2.6%.

For most people, some exposure to the stock market is necessary for the long-term returns they need. But 4% CD ballast for the fixed income part of your portfolio is fantastic right now.

I recommend checking out bogleheads.org for anybody that wants serious investment advice…with all due respect, Orion knows just enough to be dangerous.

M Brown
M Brown (@guest_566353)
March 3, 2018 13:56

While you can apply for an account online, you cannot apply for the CD online. You will have to call them to open the CD, and they are not available over the weekend.

I applied for membership, but received a notification that they couldn’t verify my information and that I should call during business hours, so Monday at 8am.

I also bought a HobbyFarmer membership, but the order is “on hold” for about 24 hours now. I paid with PayPal via my balance so they received the payment immediately.

I’m not sure about this one. 4% is a very high rate and I can’t imagine they are looking to take on a huge amount of deposits at that rate at this time. The application process has not been confidence inspiring, and so far I’ve spent $20 and eaten a hard pull. YMMV.

Ken
Ken (@guest_566320)
March 3, 2018 12:26

Ughh, a hard pull for a CD? Not sure why that’s even necessary when you’re lending them money and not the other way around.