Recap: Seat Controversy, Hyatt Backtracks On Bid & More

 

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Sal
Sal (@guest_627627)
August 7, 2018 01:47

I don’t get why couples ABSOLUTELY have to sit together for a few hours on a plane.
Or maybe I just like my own space too much!

alvinroast
alvinroast (@guest_624471)
July 31, 2018 13:07

Who cares about their sexual orientation. It’s 2018. How is it that Alaska Airlines continues to give multiple people boarding passes for the same seat? This happened to me on Alaska and the crew acted like it was my fault for not grabbing the seat before the other guy (even though I was one of the first 20 people boarding).

Ann
Ann (@guest_624508)
July 31, 2018 14:14

“the crew acted like it was my fault for not grabbing the seat before the other guy”

And if you had, the problem would’ve just moved to the other guy, who would’ve then been complaining about it instead of you, it wouldn’t have solved or avoided the problem. What a useless attitude for the crew to have.

You thought you were buying a plane ticket, not signing up to compete on a musical chairs gameshow. 😉 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee2AwxoD27k

bax
bax (@guest_624430)
July 31, 2018 12:21

Clicked for “Sean Connery”. Disappointed it’s “Seat Controversy”.

Chucks
Chucks (@guest_624368)
July 31, 2018 10:39

I don’t think a lodging credit will be added. My guess is that in Singapore flyers rarely have bag fees, aren’t as strongly upsold on slightly better seats and get lounge access for a premium ticket. An airline fee credit just wouldn’t be as useful.

PT
PT (@guest_624407)
July 31, 2018 11:47

There’s plenty of priority pass lounges in SIN. A centurion lounge would be nice but not a must have.

Bag fees? Yeah, on budget carriers, your spirit, southwest, frontier equivalents. Though SQ has been adding economy better seat fees.

True that it’ll be hard to consume S$400 in fees. There simply aren’t as many fees that’ll be covered by the US version of the card.

Rena
Rena (@guest_624337)
July 31, 2018 09:40

I wonder what determines who gets bumped when two people have the same seats? Miles/flyer status?

PT
PT (@guest_624413)
July 31, 2018 11:57

Depends on airline. But generally status, fare class, and they go from there.

Justin
Justin (@guest_624582)
July 31, 2018 17:01

I speculate that the gay couple made separate reservations, and the other couple booked together. In that case it makes complete sense the airline would keep the 2 people who are clearly associated, and ask the solo traveler to move. The story doesn’t have enought details, so it’s really hard to give it credibility around anything related to them being gay.

David
David (@guest_624333)
July 31, 2018 09:29

RE: Gay couple – There is always more to these stories than what the one side says. First – I already see an error in the article. Did they oversell the flight, or did someone simply want him to move to be next to their wife? There is a huge difference between the two.

I also just find it incredibly hard to believe that an airline would say “Move from your paid premium seat to coach or were going to kick you off the flight”. But whatever, if it ACTUALLY occurred like the article says – then yes, Alaska is clearly in the wrong. Like I said though, there is almost always more to the story.

Sa
Sa (@guest_624351)
July 31, 2018 10:07

my thoughts exactly. Couple or not, they would not move you from premium to couch just so somebody else can sit together.

krex42
krex42 (@guest_624426)
July 31, 2018 12:13
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Sure they would, this situation has happened to me twice before because the airlines somehow double booked a economy plus/premium economy seat.

Carlos
Carlos (@guest_624403)
July 31, 2018 11:42

Its too late, the damage has been done. Regardless of what clarifying information comes out or what the true story is, the narrative has already been set. The gay couple gets to advertise their gay bar nationally and gets the public exaltation for having been champions of the LGBTQ after being “oppressed” for their sexual orientation by a national air carrier. You gotta wonder about these stories. When its a member of any kind of “protected class”, its always about discrimination of that class but when its an unprotected class, its about the airline just being jerks (something thousands of people experience every year in various forms). One gets national spotlight and media attention, the other is just a blip on the radar. Four people didnt pay for two seats, so whoever paid for them gets them, end of story. Fortunately, i think unless there is clear evidence of bias and discrimination, most people in society are able to discern this for what it really is: noise. but hey these guys prob get their frequent flyer accounts padded with some hush miles which is probably all they are really after

Andrew
Andrew (@guest_624412)
July 31, 2018 11:56

Agreed. I don’t understand why it makes a difference what their sexual orientation is or how the flight crew is supposed to know that. I don’t recall ever asking someone if he’s gay. Regardless, it looks like the airline botched it; I’ve never heard of being told to move from first to economy; I’d be really upset too after paying a premium… as would anybody.

Atul
Atul (@guest_624417)
July 31, 2018 12:01

Agreed. Reminds me of old caste system in India. Oppressed at certain point in history start using protected status for every little thing.

krex42
krex42 (@guest_624427)
July 31, 2018 12:16

It wasn’t first to economy, it was premium to economy. (Which has happened to me before).

Additionally, if you read the tweet, he said the crew asked his partner to move so a couple could sit together. The gentleman told the attendant that him and his partner were also a couple. That is how sexual orientation came into this.

David
David (@guest_624446)
July 31, 2018 12:45

Article also said they oversold. Which one is it?

Max
Max (@guest_624451)
July 31, 2018 12:51

For one thing, I absolutely don’t believe that their sexuality had anything to do with it.

Orin
Orin (@guest_624584)
July 31, 2018 17:09

It sounds like the airline policy is to keep families together in these circumstances. Probably this gay guy was not married to his partner but they were just boyfriend and boyfriend. So even when they brought up the objection that they were a couple it didn’t override the company policy to keep families together. That is my guess. It would of probably been the same if it was a boyfriend and girlfriend sitting together.